On this episode: Jamilah, Zak, and Elizabeth help a listener who feels like she’s constantly walking through a maze of toys and the piles of stuff just keep growing. Both her and her partner work a ton, which leaves little time to actually clean the house. But she’s the only one pitching in… Her partner and her two kids are “incapable of cleaning up after themselves.” She’s at her wits end and seriously contemplating pitching everything. 

On Slate Plus, Jamilah, Zak, and Elizabeth discuss the Netflix show, Old Enough! Slate Plus members get a bonus segment on MADAF each week, and no ads. Sign up now at slate.com/momanddadplus to listen and support our work.

Other recommendations: 

Sister Song 

Emily Ley’s Simplified Ruthless Declutter Challenge

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Podcast produced by Rosemary Belson and Jasmine Ellis. 

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