The CIRS Group Podcast

The Legal and Psychological toll of CIRS and mold illness: CIRSx 2025 Recap!


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Today we are continuing our recap of the talks we heard at CIRSx 2025, and specifically we will be covering the legal and psychological topics. Here are the talks we will be recapping:

CIRS Research Committee Update: An Update on the CIRS Research with Glenn DiTulio

A Lawyer's Shared Experience as a CIRS Patient, Lawyer and the Legal Future of CIRS with Ryan Schnack, Esq.
The Psychological Journey of CIRS Recovery: Rediscovering Agency and Purpose on the Healing Path with Ryan J. Holsapple, PhD
Using Data to Restore Truth in the Courtroom with Dr. Scott McMahon
Fight for Your Right to Practice with Dr. Lauren Sparks, DNP, CNP, APRN
Complex Family Systems in CIRS with Dr. Jennifer Lynn Smith

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 Introduction and Disclaimer
00:40 The CIRS Research Committee by Glenn DiTulio
02:47 A Lawyer's experience with CIRS by Ryan Schnack, Esq.
08:56 A husband's story of supporting his wife through CIRS by Ryan Holsapple, PhD
13:21 Published Research to support CIRS in legal battles by Dr. Scott McMahon
16:47 Fight for your right to practice by Dr. Lauren Sparks
21:15 Complex Family Systems in CIRS with Dr. Jennifer Lynn Smith
24:32 Conclusion and Next Episode Preview

Helpful Links/Info:

Official CIRSx website: https://www.cirsx.com/
CIRS Research Foundation: https://cirs-research-foundation.org/
Email Glenn about the CIRS Research Foundation's work: [email protected]
Melanie Pensak's website: https://www.melaniepensak.com/
Ryan Schanck, Esq.'s website: https://www.ryanschnacklaw.com/
Codes to use so CIRS symptoms are taken seriously in legal situations:
277.120: Contact with toxic exposure
R65.10: Chronic Inflammation
R65.11: Systemic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (SIRS)
M35.81: COVID- multi system inflammatory response syndrome
Ryan Holsapple , PhD's website: https://www.centerforcreativechoice.com/
Dr. Scott McMahon's website: https://scottmcmahon.doctor/
Dr. Lauren Sparks' website: https://www.untamediona.com/
Dr. Jennifer Lynn Smith's website: https://www.silvertreewellness.com/

Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs

The CIRS Group:

Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:

Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory
Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:

Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

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