The Liturgists Podcast

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An artful, mind-expanding, heart-opening, genre-bending exploration of how to live a life full of more love and less suffering.

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The Liturgists Podcast episodes:

09.30.2023
Church Shopping
Michael Gungor talks about how he's been church shopping and how the Internet has reacted to it as well as his thoughts and feelings around this unexpected burst of cultural conversation
09.11.2023
Sally Kempton
Sally Kempton (January 15, 1943 – July 10, 2023) was an American swami, author, and spiritual teacher. This interview with Michael Gungor from the final year of Sally's time on this planet covers a range of topics from the divine feminine...
02.09.2023
The Sedona Method Part 2
The Sedona Method has helped transform the lives of hundreds of thousands of people around the globe. In this sequel to our original Sedona Method podcast that we released last year, Michael Gungor speaks with Hale Dwoskin, author of the...
01.27.2023
Enough
In this episode, Michael talks about his discovery about how the most destructive patterns in his history have been rooted in a story of not being enough. This realization has made him refocus his mission to the point that he...
11.21.2022
Audrey Assad interviews Gungor
Audrey Assad interviews Michael and Lisa Gungor about Gungor’s new record “Love Song to Life.” They talk about music, theology, and some unexpected musical instrumentation.
09.25.2022
Big Announcement: Daily Sanghas through Nov 11
Hey everybody! So excited to announce that starting tomorrow, Sep 26 and going through Nov 11, we will be starting a daily (every weekday at 4pm PST) "sangha" or spiritual community space that will be focused on the following ways...
09.23.2022
Nonviolent Forgiveness (I Forgive You)
Can the idea of forgiveness actually be violent? In this episode, Michael talks about Gungor's new single "I Forgive You" and explores the idea of forgiveness looking through the different lenses presented in Marshall Rosenberg's "Nonviolent Communication".
09.08.2022
A Million I's
In this bonus episode from the Loving THIS podcast, Michael talks about the meaning and story behind Gungor's new single "A Million I's"
04.21.2022
Church of the Wild
Victoria Loorz, MDiv, is a "wild church pastor," an "eco-spiritual director" and co-founder of several transformation-focused organizations focused on the integration of nature and spirituality. She feels most alive when collaborating with Mystery and kindred spirits to create opportunities for...
03.17.2022
Jennifer Dawn Watts
In today's episode, Michael talks to Jennifer Dawn Watts, friend of the show and noted faith community leader and therapist, about the idea of The 12 Steps and how they relate to spirituality.
03.11.2022
Praise
Join us in this special episode where Michael discusses the concept of Praise: what it means to him, what it means in the world, and how you can practice it in your own life
02.17.2022
John Philip Newell
In today’s episode, Michael talks to John Philip Newell, a Celtic teacher and author of spirituality who calls the modern world to reawaken to the sacredness of the earth and every human being. Together, they discuss Celtic Christianity and the...
01.27.2022
The Sedona Method
In this episode, Michael speaks with Hale Dwoskin, author of "The Sedona Method: Your Key to Lasting Happiness, Success, Peace and Emotional Well-Being" to discuss his book and the Method as he sees it. The Sedona Method is described as...
01.13.2022
Derek Webb
In the first episode of Season 8, Michael speaks to Derek Webb. Derek Webb is a musician who has always bravely asked the big questions in his music and invited others to do the same. In this episode, Derek and...
12.31.2021
EVENT ALERT: "Mass" An Existential Meditiation
Join the Liturgists for a conversation immediately following the January 1st, 3pm PST Youtube premiere of "Mass", an existential meditation by Stephen Proctor that features music from Michael Gungor's WEIWU album. You can find the information about "Mass" at massfilm.art,...
12.10.2021
Make Believe With Briana Lynn
In this final episode of Season 7, Symposium member Briana Lynn and Michael Gungor have a fun, lighthearted conversation about the belief, play, and why we tried to do what we did in this last season of the podcast.
11.04.2021
Let's Disagree Again
Peter Rollins returns to the Liturgists podcast to disagree with Michael about reality being “One” and, of course, to have some good laughs while doing so.
10.08.2021
Love More, Suffer Less
As season 7 draws to a close, Michael talks about the mission of the Liturgists and where things are headed.
09.30.2021
Let's Disagree
We've lot a lot of listeners and patrons this season. Perhaps not surprisingly, reframing Christianity to be seen as nondual spiritual technologies is not everyone's cup of tea. (Neither is Michael Gungor) But we also want you to know that...
09.09.2021
Salvation
Does the concept of salvation have any use if we don’t see it as a ticket to some other worldly existence after we die? Does the progressive notion of “freedom” that is so related to morality, justice, money, and power...
08.26.2021
Trinity
The Liturgists forms its first faux ecumenical theological council as Rev. Brianna Lynn, Mason Smith, Emily Capshaw, Latifah Alattas, Chris Davies and Michael Gungor have a fun, lively discussion about the Trinity and what, if any, value it has as...
08.12.2021
Fear No Evil
Who or what is Satan? What is the nature of evil and what is the best way to interact with it in ourselves and in others? What is “existential kink”? These are just a few of the sorts of things...
06.22.2021
Bonus: Singing Together
Singing together is not only a potentially powerful spiritual technology and form of spiritual community, but it’s good for you! Studies have shown singing to be linked to lower stress, better moods, more of a sense of connection, and many...
06.03.2021
Hell
The story of a “hell” is present in many religious traditions, but how does that impact the way we experience the present moment? What really is hell? And what do we do about all of the fear and shame it...
05.20.2021
Heaven
Is Heaven a place? A metaphor? A state of mind? In this episode of the Liturgists Podcast, Michael Gungor and Emily Capshaw explore these questions by interviewing Catherine Wolff, author of the upcoming book “Beyond: How Humankind Thinks About Heaven.”...
05.06.2021
Death and Resurrection
Everything that takes form, dies. Religion can at times help us cope with Death, but are there any downsides to creating beliefs about death? What did Jesus really mean when he spoke of conquering death? In this Episode, Michael Gungor,...
04.01.2021
Josh, A Christ
Yeshua, which is the original name of the appropriated “Jesus”, is without question the most influential character in human history, but who was he? Why was he so special? Should he actually matter as much as he does? And why...
03.11.2021
A Wretch Like You
Duality creates shame. As we try to rid ourselves of this shame, we find ourselves in a destructive shame/blame game that places us in the seat of the victim, the villain, or the victor. This episode explores the nature of...
02.11.2021
In The Beginning
In beginning to think about reforming and reframing Christian technologies, we might as well begin with the creation narrative of Genesis that has given shape to so much western Christendom. How has this story shaped us, and is there any...
02.04.2021
Reformation
In this episode of The Liturgists Podcast, we talk about the history of Christian reformation and make a case for what we think needs to continue to be reformed and reframed within Christendom. Also, as we discuss the future of...
01.28.2021
Is Christianity Worth Saving?
Is Christianity worth saving? This is a question that has been at the heart of The Liturgists since the beginning. In this first episode of Season 7, we explore this question as we begin to set the course for where...
12.17.2020
Advent 2020
2020 has been a year like no other. This holiday season we want to share something for advent. We also have more cooking for The Liturgists in 2021 which we are excited to share with you in January. Other Links Watch Immanuel...
12.04.2020
Fatphobia
Dr. Joy Cox joins William Matthews, Dr. Hillary McBride, and Michael Gungor to talk about fatness and fatphobia. Dr. Cox is the author of Fat Girls in Black Bodies: Creating Communites of Our Own and received her Ph.D. in Communication from...
11.19.2020
Womanism
Nikki Blak joins William Matthews, Dr. Hillary McBride, and Michael Gungor to talk about womanism. Follow Nikki Blak on Instagram and Twitter. You can watch The Liturgists Podcast being recorded live each week (as well as The Alien Podcast) by joining The...
11.05.2020
Post-Election Check-In
Jamie Lee Finch joins William Matthews and Michael Gungor to talk about the election in the United States, the limbo many people feel, and how we move forward together from here. You can watch The Liturgists Podcast being recorded live each...
10.22.2020
Should the Church Be Political?
Jason Fileta and Michael Wear join William Matthews, Dr. Hillary McBride, and Michael Gungor to talk about politics, the church, and how we can wade through the ways these interconnected spaces in our lives affect ourselves and those around us. Michael...
10.08.2020
Fredness
Fred Davis is a powerful non-dual spiritual teacher who has been helping people wake up to their true nature in surprising numbers for over a decade. In this episode, Michael laughs (and occasionally speaks) with Fred about non-duality, enlightenment, and...
09.24.2020
Cancel Culture
“Cancel Culture” is a relatively recent phrase that has entered the cultural milieu in a profound and divisive way. In this “mega episode” of the Liturgists podcast, Michael Gungor, William Matthews, Dr. Hillary McBride, Jamie Lee Finch, Dr. Robyn Henderson-Espinoza,...
09.10.2020
Arctic (Rewind)
We have been working on a documentary for over a year about The Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. The full documentary will be released on September 22, 2020 and we will be hosting a live stream that same day with the...
08.27.2020
Can Art Help Us Heal?
Arielle Estoria joins William Matthews, Dr. Hillary McBride, and Michael Gungor to discuss art and our relationship to it. Whether art lives in our movement, prose, canvas, notebook, instrument, work, or play, it shapes us and pushes us towards something...
08.13.2020
What Now?
Dr. Hillary McBride, William Matthews, and Michael Gungor discuss what happens after deconstruction - often called "reconstruction." They are joined by Kevin Garcia and work together through the different ways we change, build, form, or adapt what we believe and...
06.18.2020
Are You Perfect Yet?
In this bonus episode from The Liturgists Network show Loving This, Michael Gungor discusses and demos his new solo album Are You Perfect Yet? which is by his new artist Weiwu. The album follows the flow of Five Rhythms dance,...
05.28.2020
Shēma
A special preview of The Alien Podcast which is our private podcast for patrons. This week Michael (The Alien) and Jamie (The Sex Witch) talk about all manner of rabbit trails. Each week on The Alien Podcast Michael has open...
05.21.2020
Should Dissonance Be Avoided?
William Matthews, Dr. Hillary McBride, and Michael Gungor discuss dissonance and how our minds work to make sense of things when we have two incongruent ideas occupy our minds at one time. How does our ability to survive affect how...
05.14.2020
Is Disability Inherently Negative?
Heather McCain talks with Dr. Hillary McBride to pull apart the story that disability is inherently negative. Heather McCain is Executive Director of Creating Accessible Neighbourhoods, a non-profit they founded in 2005. Heather’s experiences with multiple types of disabilities, inaccessibility,...
05.07.2020
Does Fat = Bad?
Christy Harrison talks with Dr. Hillary McBride and Michael Gungor about our culture's obsession with dieting and our views of our bodies. They dive into over one-hundred years of history to highlight how our modern day assumptions are often based...
04.30.2020
I'll Be Happy If...
Peter Rollins and Michael Gungor talk about happiness and the many ways we seek it out. We may use the tools of religion, belief, work, ideals, pleasure, or others to help us be happy. By breaking down the stories we...
04.23.2020
Grief
We have all experienced or will experience grief at some point in our lives. Loss, whether unexpected or not, leaves us feeling alone. In this episode, Dr. Hillary McBride, William Matthews, and Michael Gungor talk about grief, how it affects...
04.16.2020
Eating and Body Positivity with Evelyn Tribole
Evelyn Tribole talks with Dr. Hillary McBride and Michael Gungor about our relationship with eating and our view of our body. Evelyn is an award-winning registered dietitian with a nutrition counseling practice in Newport Beach, CA, specializing in eating disorders....
04.09.2020
Holy Week & Easter
In this episode we want to share a liturgy we created for Holy Week called "Garden." This liturgy features Amena Brown, Rachel Held Evans, Rob Bell, Science Mike, and Gungor. If you are not a regular consumer of...

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The Liturgists Podcast episodes:

Church Shopping

Sally Kempton

The Sedona Method Part 2

Enough

Audrey Assad interviews Gungor

Big Announcement: Daily Sanghas through Nov 11

Nonviolent Forgiveness (I Forgive You)

A Million I's

Church of the Wild

Jennifer Dawn Watts

Praise

John Philip Newell

The Sedona Method

Derek Webb

EVENT ALERT: "Mass" An Existential Meditiation

Make Believe With Briana Lynn

Let's Disagree Again

Love More, Suffer Less

Let's Disagree

Salvation

Trinity

Fear No Evil

Bonus: Singing Together

Hell

Heaven

Death and Resurrection

Josh, A Christ

A Wretch Like You

In The Beginning

Reformation

Is Christianity Worth Saving?

Advent 2020

Fatphobia

Womanism

Post-Election Check-In

Should the Church Be Political?

Fredness

Cancel Culture

Arctic (Rewind)

Can Art Help Us Heal?

What Now?

Are You Perfect Yet?

Shēma

Should Dissonance Be Avoided?

Is Disability Inherently Negative?

Does Fat = Bad?

I'll Be Happy If...

Grief

Eating and Body Positivity with Evelyn Tribole

Holy Week & Easter