The Liturgists Podcast

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Michael Gungor, Science Mike, William Matthews, and Hillary McBride host a culture-shaping, genre-bending conversation about the most relevant (or bizarre) topics facing people today.

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Love More, Suffer Less

10.08.2021

As season 7 draws to a close, Michael talks about the mission of the Liturgists and where things are headed.

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10.08.2021 Love More, Suffer Less As season 7 draws to a close, Michael talks about the mission of the Liturgists and where things are headed.
09.30.2021 Let's Disagree We've lot a lot of listeners and patrons this season. Perhaps not surprisingly, reframing Christianity to be seen as nondual spiritual technologies is not everyone's cup of tea. (Neither is Michael Gungor) But we also want you to know that ...
09.09.2021 Salvation Does the concept of salvation have any use if we don’t see it as a ticket to some other worldly existence after we die? Does the progressive notion of “freedom” that is so related to morality, justice, money, and power ...
08.26.2021 Trinity The Liturgists forms its first faux ecumenical theological council as Rev. Brianna Lynn, Mason Smith, Emily Capshaw, Latifah Alattas, Chris Davies and Michael Gungor have a fun, lively discussion about the Trinity and what, if any, value it has as ...
08.12.2021 Fear No Evil Who or what is Satan? What is the nature of evil and what is the best way to interact with it in ourselves and in others? What is “existential kink”? These are just a few of the sorts of things ...
06.22.2021 Bonus: Singing Together Singing together is not only a potentially powerful spiritual technology and form of spiritual community, but it’s good for you! Studies have shown singing to be linked to lower stress, better moods, more of a sense of connection, and many ...
06.03.2021 Hell The story of a “hell” is present in many religious traditions, but how does that impact the way we experience the present moment? What really is hell? And what do we do about all of the fear and shame it ...
05.20.2021 Heaven Is Heaven a place? A metaphor? A state of mind? In this episode of the Liturgists Podcast, Michael Gungor and Emily Capshaw explore these questions by interviewing Catherine Wolff, author of the upcoming book “Beyond: How Humankind Thinks About Heaven.” ...
05.06.2021 Death and Resurrection Everything that takes form, dies. Religion can at times help us cope with Death, but are there any downsides to creating beliefs about death? What did Jesus really mean when he spoke of conquering death? In this Episode, Michael Gungor, ...
04.01.2021 Josh, A Christ Yeshua, which is the original name of the appropriated “Jesus”, is without question the most influential character in human history, but who was he? Why was he so special? Should he actually matter as much as he does? And why ...
03.11.2021 A Wretch Like You Duality creates shame. As we try to rid ourselves of this shame, we find ourselves in a destructive shame/blame game that places us in the seat of the victim, the villain, or the victor. This episode explores the nature of ...
02.11.2021 In The Beginning In beginning to think about reforming and reframing Christian technologies, we might as well begin with the creation narrative of Genesis that has given shape to so much western Christendom. How has this story shaped us, and is there any ...
02.04.2021 Reformation In this episode of The Liturgists Podcast, we talk about the history of Christian reformation and make a case for what we think needs to continue to be reformed and reframed within Christendom. Also, as we discuss the future of ...
01.28.2021 Is Christianity Worth Saving? Is Christianity worth saving? This is a question that has been at the heart of The Liturgists since the beginning. In this first episode of Season 7, we explore this question as we begin to set the course for where ...
12.17.2020 Advent 2020 2020 has been a year like no other. This holiday season we want to share something for advent. We also have more cooking for The Liturgists in 2021 which we are excited to share with you in January. Other Links ...
12.04.2020 Fatphobia Dr. Joy Cox joins William Matthews, Dr. Hillary McBride, and Michael Gungor to talk about fatness and fatphobia. Dr. Cox is the author of Fat Girls in Black Bodies: Creating Communites of Our Own and received her Ph.D. in Communication ...
11.19.2020 Womanism Nikki Blak joins William Matthews, Dr. Hillary McBride, and Michael Gungor to talk about womanism. Follow Nikki Blak on Instagram and Twitter. You can watch The Liturgists Podcast being recorded live each week (as well as The Alien Podcast) by ...
11.05.2020 Post-Election Check-In Jamie Lee Finch joins William Matthews and Michael Gungor to talk about the election in the United States, the limbo many people feel, and how we move forward together from here. You can watch The Liturgists Podcast being recorded live ...
10.22.2020 Should the Church Be Political? Jason Fileta and Michael Wear join William Matthews, Dr. Hillary McBride, and Michael Gungor to talk about politics, the church, and how we can wade through the ways these interconnected spaces in our lives affect ourselves and those around us. ...
10.08.2020 Fredness Fred Davis is a powerful non-dual spiritual teacher who has been helping people wake up to their true nature in surprising numbers for over a decade. In this episode, Michael laughs (and occasionally speaks) with Fred about non-duality, enlightenment, and ...
09.24.2020 Cancel Culture “Cancel Culture” is a relatively recent phrase that has entered the cultural milieu in a profound and divisive way. In this “mega episode” of the Liturgists podcast, Michael Gungor, William Matthews, Dr. Hillary McBride, Jamie Lee Finch, Dr. Robyn Henderson-Espinoza, ...
09.10.2020 Arctic (Rewind) We have been working on a documentary for over a year about The Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. The full documentary will be released on September 22, 2020 and we will be hosting a live stream that same day with the ...
08.27.2020 Can Art Help Us Heal? Arielle Estoria joins William Matthews, Dr. Hillary McBride, and Michael Gungor to discuss art and our relationship to it. Whether art lives in our movement, prose, canvas, notebook, instrument, work, or play, it shapes us and pushes us towards something ...
08.13.2020 What Now? Dr. Hillary McBride, William Matthews, and Michael Gungor discuss what happens after deconstruction - often called "reconstruction." They are joined by Kevin Garcia and work together through the different ways we change, build, form, or adapt what we believe and ...
06.18.2020 Are You Perfect Yet? In this bonus episode from The Liturgists Network show Loving This, Michael Gungor discusses and demos his new solo album Are You Perfect Yet? which is by his new artist Weiwu. The album follows the flow of Five Rhythms dance, ...
05.28.2020 Shēma A special preview of The Alien Podcast which is our private podcast for patrons. This week Michael (The Alien) and Jamie (The Sex Witch) talk about all manner of rabbit trails. Each week on The Alien Podcast Michael has open ...
05.21.2020 Should Dissonance Be Avoided? William Matthews, Dr. Hillary McBride, and Michael Gungor discuss dissonance and how our minds work to make sense of things when we have two incongruent ideas occupy our minds at one time. How does our ability to survive affect how ...
05.14.2020 Is Disability Inherently Negative? Heather McCain talks with Dr. Hillary McBride to pull apart the story that disability is inherently negative. Heather McCain is Executive Director of Creating Accessible Neighbourhoods, a non-profit they founded in 2005. Heather’s experiences with multiple types of disabilities, inaccessibility, ...
05.07.2020 Does Fat = Bad? Christy Harrison talks with Dr. Hillary McBride and Michael Gungor about our culture's obsession with dieting and our views of our bodies. They dive into over one-hundred years of history to highlight how our modern day assumptions are often based ...
04.30.2020 I'll Be Happy If... Peter Rollins and Michael Gungor talk about happiness and the many ways we seek it out. We may use the tools of religion, belief, work, ideals, pleasure, or others to help us be happy. By breaking down the stories we ...
04.23.2020 Grief We have all experienced or will experience grief at some point in our lives. Loss, whether unexpected or not, leaves us feeling alone. In this episode, Dr. Hillary McBride, William Matthews, and Michael Gungor talk about grief, how it affects ...
04.16.2020 Eating and Body Positivity with Evelyn Tribole Evelyn Tribole talks with Dr. Hillary McBride and Michael Gungor about our relationship with eating and our view of our body. Evelyn is an award-winning registered dietitian with a nutrition counseling practice in Newport Beach, CA, specializing in eating disorders. ...
04.09.2020 Holy Week & Easter In this episode we want to share a liturgy we created for Holy Week called "Garden." This liturgy features Amena Brown, Rachel Held Evans, Rob Bell, Science Mike, and Gungor. If you are not a regular consumer of liturgies, it ...
04.02.2020 Journeying From Hopelessness to Healing with Ruthie Lindsey Ruthie Lindsey talks with Dr. Hillary McBride and Michael Gungor about her experience with pain and trauma. They also discuss some things we can do during the COVID-19 crisis. Ruthie's new book, There I Am: The Journey from Hopelessness to ...
03.26.2020 Fighting Most of us are cooped up inside our homes and are social distancing in response to COVID-19. If we live with people, this marathon of close proximity may engage our feelings and heighten both the good and bad elements in ...
03.19.2020 COVID-19: The Science, How To Help, and Handling The Stress Dr. Hillary McBride, Science Mike, William Matthews, and Michael Gungor talk about COVID-19 and its impact on our health, culture, and economy. Many news sources are discussing the pandemic using the titles "Coronavirus" or "COVID-19." Here are some quick facts ...
03.12.2020 Is Deconstruction Bad? Deconstruction is a common experience for people in The Liturgists Community. We all have stories of how we grew up, memories of what we were taught, and key ideas that still influence us. We may use many words to describe ...
03.05.2020 Is Pleasure Sinful? While pleasure is usually positive and suffering usually negative, Christian culture often celebrates suffering while denigrating pleasure. Phrases like "dying to the flesh" highlight how we learn to internalize martyrdom in order to please God. Unfortunately, when we suppress our ...
02.29.2020 On Art & Poetry with James Baldwin & Maya Angelou In this episode, we highlight two poets: James Baldwin and Maya Angelou. Both were best selling authors and world-renown poets. We highlight their words as they relate to art, the creative process, and the moral responsibility the artist carries to ...
02.28.2020 Interviews with Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. & Malcolm X In this episode, we focus on the words of two men who early on had two very different opinions, but at the end of their lives they were much closer together — closer than you may think. These two men ...
02.27.2020 Black Feminism & Womanism Womanism doesn't position itself in relation to masculinity, whereas black feminism and feminism specifically seek to elevate women to the status of men socially, politically, and economically; and also overcome patriarchy, sexism, and oppression. Black feminism asserts that the experience ...
02.27.2020 Do Those People Need Jesus? There is a God shaped hole in your heart, or at least that's what a white Jesus texted his friend in the tract you read as a kid. We were told we need Jesus because total depravity — our inherent ...
02.26.2020 Bryan Stevenson An American lawyer, social justice activist, founder/executive director of the Equal Justice Initiative, and a clinical professor at New York University School of Law. Based in Montgomery, Alabama, he has challenged bias against the poor and minorities in the criminal ...
02.25.2020 Angela Davis An American political activist, philosopher, academic, and author. Ideologically a Marxist, she was a member of Communist Party USA until 1991 after which she joined the Committees of Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism. She is the author of over 10 ...
02.24.2020 Audre Lorde An American writer, feminist, womanist, librarian, and civil rights activist. As a poet, she is best known for technical mastery and emotional expression, as well as her poems that express anger and outrage at civil and social injustices she observed ...
02.23.2020 Muhammad Ali An African-American professional boxer, activist, and philanthropist. Born as Cassius Marcellus Clay, he changed his name in the early sixties after converting to Islam. He won the world heavyweight championship from Sonny Liston at a major upset in 1964 at ...
02.22.2020 James Cone An American theologian. Best known for his black theology and black liberation theology. His 1969 book Black Theology and Black Power provided a new way to comprehensively define the distinctiveness of theology in the black church. His message was that ...
02.21.2020 Fred Hampton & The Black Panthers An American activist and revolutionary socialist. He rose quickly in the Black Panthers based on his organizing skills, substantial oratorical gifts, and personal charisma. He took chairmanship of the Illinois state Black Panther Party after the party split. Because of ...
02.20.2020 Are Those People the Problem? Scapegoating is a common human response to difficult situations. We have a tendency to point to another group of people as the source of our world's woes. But is the solution simply saying "they" are the problem? What happens when ...
02.20.2020 Maya Angelou An American poet, singer, memoirist, and civil rights advocate. She published seven autobiographies, many books of essays, many books of poetry, and is credited with plays, movies, and television shows. She received dozens of awards and more than 50 honorary ...

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The Liturgists Podcast episodes:

Love More, Suffer Less

Let's Disagree

Salvation

Trinity

Fear No Evil

Bonus: Singing Together

Hell

Heaven

Death and Resurrection

Josh, A Christ

A Wretch Like You

In The Beginning

Reformation

Is Christianity Worth Saving?

Advent 2020

Fatphobia

Womanism

Post-Election Check-In

Should the Church Be Political?

Fredness

Cancel Culture

Arctic (Rewind)

Can Art Help Us Heal?

What Now?

Are You Perfect Yet?

Shēma

Should Dissonance Be Avoided?

Is Disability Inherently Negative?

Does Fat = Bad?

I'll Be Happy If...

Grief

Eating and Body Positivity with Evelyn Tribole

Holy Week & Easter

Journeying From Hopelessness to Healing with Ruthie Lindsey

Fighting

COVID-19: The Science, How To Help, and Handling The Stress

Is Deconstruction Bad?

Is Pleasure Sinful?

On Art & Poetry with James Baldwin & Maya Angelou

Interviews with Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. & Malcolm X

Black Feminism & Womanism

Do Those People Need Jesus?

Bryan Stevenson

Angela Davis

Audre Lorde

Muhammad Ali

James Cone

Fred Hampton & The Black Panthers

Are Those People the Problem?

Maya Angelou

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