The LSCRE Podcast

The LSCRE Podcast

By Rob BeardsleyBusinessInvesting
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The LSCRE Podcast episodes

  • How to Win Today's Market Without Over-Leveraging

    In this episode of the LSCRE Podcast, Craig McGrouther and I dive into how investors can stay competitive and build sustainable portfolios in today’s market environment.

    We discuss why many investors are being forced to rethink their capital structures, how to protect returns without taking on excessive leverage, and the principles of disciplined underwriting that separate strong operators from overextended ones. I share insights from institutional investors on navigating higher interest rates, preserving liquidity, and maintaining flexibility while still pursuing growth.

    The conversation also explores current trends in capital markets, the balance between risk and reward, and how to identify opportunities that perform even when leverage works against you. Craig and I outline the playbook for thriving through smart, steady execution rather than chasing aggressive leverage.

    Learn more about LSCRE:
    www.lscre.com

    43 min
  • The Secret to Longevity as a Fund Manager With Sam Silverman

    In this episode, Craig McGrouther sits down with Sam Silverman to discuss the critical challenge facing fund managers today in building sustainable revenue while waiting years for equity deals to pay out.

    Sam introduces KUDO Capital's private credit fund, which targets 16% annual returns through business funding investments that fully amortize in 4 to 12 months. With a fully aligned fee structure where the GP takes zero unless investors hit their full return, the fund provides both current pay and liquidity after a one year lockup. Craig and Sam also explore current multifamily market conditions, discussing recession indicators, the widening rent versus own gap, and why building a balanced portfolio is essential for long term success in today's challenging environment.

    Learn more about LSCRE:
    www.lscre.com 

    27 min
  • The Real Value of Real Estate

    In this episode of the LSCRE Podcast, Craig McGrouther and I tackle whether alpha is dead in multifamily real estate.

    I explain how institutionalization has compressed returns across the board, but opportunities still exist through vertical integration, market expertise, and innovative strategies. We break down what true vertical integration actually means and how these "one percenters" create the actual value add that generates alpha in today's competitive market.

    The discussion also covers the disconnect between official job reports and economic reality, with persistent data revisions revealing a weaker labor market than reported. Craig and I explore the three critical components of real estate value, including land, structure, and finishes, explaining why location is the only appreciating asset and should be the primary focus for long-term investors seeking stable returns and strong exit liquidity.

    Learn more about LSCRE:
    www.lscre.com 

    30 min
  • How Short-Term Thinking Destroys Real Estate Markets

    In this episode, Craig McGrouther sits down with Joe Downs, CEO of Belrose Group, who shares his journey from financial advisor to bar owner to self-storage operator. After multiple career reinventions, Joe discovered that 80% of self-storage facilities are owned by mom & pop operators – creating a massive opportunity for professional operators who can bring modern technology, dynamic pricing, and professional management to an outdated industry.

    Joe explains his investment thesis for self-storage, including why he focuses on the Southeast, and the surprising data showing millennials use storage 3x more than Gen X. He breaks down how to evaluate markets using supply-per-capita metrics, why median household income matters, and how to avoid oversupplied markets. Whether you're looking to diversify beyond multifamily or curious about alternative commercial real estate, this episode reveals the opportunities in an often-overlooked asset class.

    Learn more about LSCRE:
    www.lscre.com 

    52 min
  • The Truth About Building Wealth in Real Estate with Gino Barbaro

    In this episode, Craig McGrouther sits down with Gino Barbaro of Jake and Gino, who shares his 20-year journey from running a restaurant to owning 1,800+ multifamily units. After spending 18 months finding their first 25-unit deal for $675K (now worth $2.5M), Gino explains how he worked full-time while building his portfolio – dedicating 15-20 hours weekly to real estate until 2015.

    He emphasizes the importance of limiting downside risk and following foundational principles: "buy right, manage right, finance right." Gino warns against rosy rent projections in today's market, noting that properties advertising $1,500 rents with concessions really rent for $1,400. His key insight: in periods of stagnant rent growth and rising expenses, investors need 5-7 year horizons, not the 24-36 month exits that spoiled the market during 2020-2022's "sugar high."

    Learn more about LSCRE:
    www.lscre.com 

    56 min
  • Reading the Market Before the Turn

    In this episode, Craig McGrouther sits down with Casey Stratton, who shares his journey from corporate layoffs during the GFC to building a real estate portfolio using the 1% rule – buying duplexes for $100K that rented for $1K/month. Now focused on Eastern Washington's Tri-Cities (one of the top 20 fastest-growing MSAs), Casey discusses how they're navigating today's 0.75% reality by pursuing true off-market deals and pivoting to development.

    After securing a 33-unit property from an 86-year-old seller below market rents, they're launching their first ground-up development of 140 units. Casey reveals how Washington's new rent control (7% + CPI cap) changes the value-add playbook, requiring 2+ years just to reach market rents.

    His key insight: sub-50 unit deals remain inefficient enough for arbitrage opportunities while institutional capital chases larger assets.

    Learn more about LSCRE:
    www.lscre.com 

    40 min
  • Why Small & Mid-Size Multifamily Still Works in 2025

    In this episode, Craig Mcgrouther sits down with Axel Ragnarsson of Aligned Real Estate Partners, who's carved out a unique niche buying 5-20 unit properties direct from sellers in Southern New Hampshire. Since 2016, Axel has built a 525-unit portfolio by maintaining long-term follow-up with sellers, often nurturing relationships for 12-18 months before closing. 

    He explains how 75% of his deals bypass brokers entirely, capturing inefficiencies in the $1-5M deal range where 15-20% discounts are still possible. With New Hampshire being the only Northeast state with positive population growth and minimal new supply, Axel's market has avoided the operational distress plaguing sunbelt markets. 

    Learn more about LSCRE:
    www.lscre.com 

    48 min
  • The Value of Value-Add

    In this post-LSC Summit episode recorded in NYC, Craig McGrouther and I reflect on another successful investor event and dive deep into current market opportunities. We share behind-the-scenes insight on why our summit is designed to break even, the power of curated in-person networking, and the culture of accessibility that sets our events apart.

    We break down why 1970s-80s vintage multifamily is becoming the sweet spot – institutional capital is chasing 2000s and newer assets while retail syndicators who dominated older stock have retreated after losses.

    I explain how concessions persist in Class A despite predictions they'd burn off, while the "Goldilocks" 2005-vintage market is now overpriced.

    The key insight: older assets in prime locations offer the best risk-adjusted returns if you have the operational expertise to handle deferred maintenance. We also dissect why traditional value-add strategies often fail when brokers pitch replacing perfectly good countertops.

    Our contrarian view: the best time to spend CapEx is when nobody else wants to.

    Learn more about LSCRE:
    www.lscre.com 

    48 min
  • He Lost Everything in 2008… What He Did Next Will Shock You

    In this episode, Craig McGrouther sits down with Andrew McNair, founder of SWAN Capital, who shares his remarkable journey from saving $62K working at McDonald's and Denny's as a teenager to losing it all in the stock market at 19. After reading Rich Dad Poor Dad at 14, Andrew worked for free at a wealth management firm while maintaining jobs, eventually building a portfolio of 54 rental properties by age 30.

    The stress of hands-on management led him to pivot toward syndications through Cygnet, targeting geographic diversification across multifamily, storage, medical office, and flex industrial. Now managing $20M+ annually for retirees, Andrew emphasizes the importance of having "skin in the game". All SWAN employees invest 100% of their retirement funds in their own portfolios.

    His key insight: business owners need both active and passive real estate exposure to truly understand what they're solving for.

    Learn more about LSCRE:
    www.lscre.com 

    43 min
  • Rethinking Value-Add in Today’s Market

    In this episode of the LSCRE podcast, Craig McGrouther, Sam Morris, and I tackle the "hackneyed" concept of value-add investing and why it's been reduced to a one-trick pony of kitchen renovations. We explain how value-add became overused to the point of losing meaning, with sponsors pitching newer construction as "value-add opportunities".

    We explore alternative value-add strategies: operational improvements, financial restructuring, and amenity additions like in-unit washers that can generate $50/month on a $1,200 investment. Rob shares his contrarian view that many value-add success stories from 2015-2022 were simply riding a bull market, not brilliant execution. 

    Learn more about LSCRE:
    www.lscre.com 

    50 min

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