Edward Stettinius, Jr. served a short but important time as Secretary of State serving F.D.R. and Truman.  Without him, there may not have been a UN.  And because he got very little credit, he was able to be successful.   With journalist Bill Scher, host of the "When America Worked" Podcast we discuss Stettinius and pragmatists in general, and Bill talks about the new podcast.    

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