The Midlife Chrysalis

The Midlife Chrysalis

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  • You Did Everything Right… So Why Does It Feel Wrong? | Jill Nykoliation

    You can have a career, success, and still feel like something is missing.


    In this episode, Jill Nykoliation, former CEO of a globally recognized branding agency turned executive coach, shares how she walked away from a high-level career to rediscover who she really is, and why that shift changed everything.


    Here’s what you’ll learn:

    • Why success can feel empty (and what it’s really telling you)
    • The part of yourself you may have silenced—and how to reconnect with it
    • The difference between your roles and your true identity
    • Why feeling stuck is often the beginning of growth


    A warm, honest conversation about purpose, identity, and starting again.


    Watch now! This might be exactly what you need to hear.


    Timestamps:

    14:53 Introduction of Jill Nicolasian

    15:13 Ukrainian roots and father’s influence

    18:08 Jill’s career and marketing background

    21:46 2015 life quake and identity crisis

    26:00 Pandemic shift and team transformation

    27:59 Transition to MEA and new identity

    30:25 Moving into coaching and teaching

    34:17 Designing life and career shifts

    37:04 Letting go of old identity

    38:27 Common struggles in transitions

    46:26 Fluid vs crystallized intelligence

    48:35 Feeling stuck and embracing change

    51:47 What improves with age

    54:18 Wisdom and “Be you” message


    Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/


    #WhoAmINow #IdentityShift #OutgrowingYourLife #SuccessFeelsEmpty #MidlifeAwakening #CareerTransition #FindYourTrueSelf #StopPerforming #LifeAfterSuccess #PersonalEvolution #InnerShift #PurposeJourney #ExecutiveCoach #ReinventYourself #AuthenticLiving

    48 min
  • The Real Reason You’re Aging Faster Than You Should | Dr. Florence Comite

    You’re not aging the way you think you are, and that changes everything.


    In this episode, Chip sits down with Dr. Florence Comite, Yale-trained physician, longevity expert, and author of Invincible, to explore a smarter, more personal approach to health and aging.


    Blending science with a powerful personal story, she challenges everything we think we know about living longer.


    Here’s what you’ll learn:

    • Why your genes don’t control your future
    • The truth about biohacking and why most of it fails
    • Why sleep is the #1 overlooked longevity tool
    • How men and women age differently
    • The hidden role of blood sugar in disease

    If you want to age smarter, not just longer, start here.


    🎧 Watch now and start taking control of your health destiny.


    Timestamps:

    (08:02) Childhood and immigrant family background

    (09:39) Early sense of purpose and survival mindset

    (11:58) Therapy and work-life reflection

    (13:38) Journey into longevity and medicine

    (20:41) Founding women’s health program

    (25:03) Longevity industry and biohacking

    (26:03) Why men are obsessed with longevity

    (29:59) Hormones, relationships and midlife challenges

    (34:29) Male vs female aging differences

    (38:29) Biohacking myths explained

    (43:02) Personalized medicine and genetics

    (45:18) Defying genetic destiny

    (48:27) Key longevity practices discussion

    (50:08) Importance of sleep for longevity

    (51:49) Blood sugar and metabolic health

    (55:27) Final reflections on longevity

    (56:34) Life philosophy and wisdom

    (57:20) Embracing change and growth


    Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/


    #Longevity #HealthyAging #Biohacking #PrecisionMedicine #SleepHealth #BloodSugar #MetabolicHealth #HormoneHealth #AgingWell #HealthOptimization #WomensHealth #MensHealth #Genetics #MidlifeHealth #Wellness

    57 min
  • Take a Month Off and See Who You Become

    What if you gave yourself 30 days… with nothing planned?


    In this episode, Chip Conley shares a deeply personal idea he’s exploring: stepping away from a busy life for a full month: no schedule, no expectations, just space to listen, reflect, and reset.


    It’s not about escaping life. It’s about returning to it with more clarity and intention.


    Few ideas from the episode that might stay with you:

    • What it actually means to “disappear” for 30 days
    • Why hearing your own eulogy might hit harder than you expect
    • The uncomfortable truth about always being on and reachable
    • What happens when you remove all structure from your life
    • Why slowing down feels almost impossible, even when you want it

    It’s a bold, thought-provoking conversation about slowing down, letting go, and trusting what unfolds next.


    Watch now and consider: when was the last time you gave yourself space like this?


    Timestamps:

    (00:01) Introduction and ranch life

    (03:14) The idea of “the month I died”

    (04:45) Social eulogy concept

    (06:02) Letting go of identity and schedule

    (07:05) Preparing for a full disconnect

    (10:05) No productivity goal for the month

    (13:45) Disconnecting from life and people

    (15:12) Slowing down and life reset

    (16:32) Post ambition era

    (21:11) Workaholic vs calling

    (23:31) One day reset experiment


    Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/


    #personalgrowth #selfdiscovery #lifereset #mindsetshift #innerpeace #slowliving #mentalclarity #findyourself #lifechange #purposefulliving #burnoutrecovery #selfreflection #intentionalliving #modernelder #wellnessjourney

    24 min
  • How to Heal Trauma in Your Body and Mind | Rebecca & Jaimie

    In this powerful episode of the Midlife Chrysalis, Chip Conley sits down with two women who’ve pushed their limits, physically, emotionally, and psychologically, and came out transformed.

    Meet Rebecca Rusch, a world-class endurance athlete who biked the Ho Chi Minh Trail to reconnect with her late father, and Jaimie Lusk, a former Marine turned psychologist helping veterans heal from deep psychological wounds. Together, they reveal what happens when life forces you to face what you’ve been avoiding.


    Here’s what you’ll discover:

    • Why midlife isn’t a crisis, but a turning point you can’t ignore
    • What “moral injury” is, and how it quietly shapes your behavior
    • Why success and achievement often mask deeper pain
    • How your body plays a key role in healing your mind
    • Why nature can reset your nervous system


    This isn’t just about midlife. It’s about what happens when everything you built no longer feels like you. If you’ve ever felt stuck or like something is missing… this one will hit.


    Watch now.


    Timestamps:

    (00:00) Intro

    (00:44) Meet Rebecca and Jaimie

    (02:42) From Marine to psychologist

    (04:32) The moment everything clicked

    (05:54) Emotional journey behind Blood Road

    (08:29) A workshop built on nature and movement

    (09:32) Why you can’t avoid inner work forever

    (12:20) What is moral injury

    (15:01) Why you must face the pain

    (17:40) Success can hide deeper wounds

    (19:31) Losing identity and starting over

    (22:35) Midlife isn’t a crisis

    (25:31) Feeling lost is part of the process

    (28:05) Reconnecting mind and body

    (31:25) Push yourself or slow down

    (33:01) The 3 skills that shape your life

    (34:16) Wisdom bumper sticker

    (38:07) Why nature changes everything

    (40:23) The takeaway from this episode


    Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/


    #MidlifeChrysalis #ChipConley #MoralInjury #MidlifeHealing #TraumaAndHealing #VeteranHealing #PTSDRecovery #EnduranceAthlete #BloodRoad #InnerWorkJourney #MidlifeAwakening #NatureHeals #MindBodyHealing #LifeAfterTrauma #FindYourselfAgain

    45 min
  • Stop Living on Autopilot. Start Living for Real | Bonnie Wan

    Most people don’t realize they’re living someone else’s life until it’s too late.


    In this episode, Chip Conley sits down with Bonnie Wan, a renowned brand strategist and author of The Life Brief, who has spent decades studying human behavior, and now helps people redesign their lives with clarity and intention.


    Through her “Life Brief” method, people learn how to cut through the noise and make decisions that truly align with them.


    Key insights:

    • Why clarity alone doesn’t change your life
    • The one question that reveals what you really want
    • How to stop living on autopilot
    • What’s really behind feeling stuck in midlife


    If something feels off but you can’t explain why, this will make it clear.


    Watch now and start taking your life back.


    Timestamps:

    (00:00) Intro and episode setup(04:04) Bonnie Wan introduction

    (04:44) Early life and path into advertising

    (07:47) The “Got Milk” story and key insight

    (13:05) What is The Life Brief

    (14:46) Clarity and “Fuck Yes” feeling

    (16:24) Why people feel stuck in midlife

    (17:10) Powerful questions to change your life

    (20:00) Marriage crisis and breakthrough

    (23:06) “Take Our Time” life brief

    (26:15) From career to calling

    (30:01) Ambition from the inside out

    (31:38) What gets better with age

    (33:09) What does “enough” really mean

    (35:43) Redefining wealth as relationships

    (36:11) Designing a slower, intentional life

    (40:25) “Chase your goosebumps” advice

    (41:56) Breaking free from the success script

    (47:40) Final reflections and closing


    Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/


    #LifeBrief #BonnieWan #FindYourFuckYes #MidlifeClarity #LifeOnPurpose #StopLivingSomeoneElsesLife #LifeRedesign #ClarityInLife #MidlifeAwakening #IntentionalLiving #LifeStrategy #PersonalClarity #ReclaimYourLife #InnerKnowing #LifeReset

    53 min
  • Knowledge Won’t Save You. Curiosity Will

    You don’t stay relevant by knowing more. You stay relevant by staying curious.


    In this episode of Wisdom Wednesday, Chip Conley joins Derek Gehl to break down why curiosity, not experience or intelligence, is the real edge in midlife and beyond.


    Here’s what stands out:

    • Curiosity is the antidote to irrelevance
    • Asking better questions beats having the right answers
    • Midlife requires a shift from knowledge to wisdom
    • Learning for no reason can unlock new purpose
    • Staying curious keeps your mind sharp and engaged


    It’s a simple shift, but it changes everything.


    👉 Watch now and start thinking like a beginner again


    Timestamps:

    00:00 Why curiosity improves work and life

    03:34 Curiosity as antidote to irrelevance

    06:18 Chip’s experience at Airbnb

    10:10 Power of asking better questions

    12:33 Curiosity vs learning explained

    14:46 Curiosity and innovation culture

    18:04 Learning for curiosity not productivity

    18:48 Turning curiosity into new paths

    22:45 How curiosity looks for everyday people

    25:51 Learning for the sake of passion

    26:56 Lifelong learning and aging

    28:38 Curiosity and brain health

    29:07 Key question what are you a beginner in

    30:12 Creating space for curiosity


    Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/


    #curiosity #growthmindset #lifelonglearning #midlifegrowth #selfimprovement #personaldevelopment #mentalfitness #stayrelevant #learnhowtolearn #askbetterquestions #mindsetshift #reinventyourself #emotionalintelligence #careertransition #wisdom

    28 min
  • She Quit a 30-Year Career to Help Others Rebrand Their Lives | Robin Fisher Roffer

    Midlife might be the moment everything finally starts to make sense.


    In this episode of The Midlife Chrysalis, Chip sits down with branding expert Robin Fisher Roffer, who spent over 30 years shaping major brands, to explore how those same principles can help you reinvent your life.


    Robin shares her own powerful transition, stepping away from a successful career to start a whole new chapter, and what she’s learned along the way.


    In this episode, you’ll discover:

    • Why real change starts by reconnecting with your original story
    • The 3 essentials of a strong personal identity: clarity, consistency, and authenticity
    • How to define your own “tagline” for your next chapter
    • A refreshing way to see midlife as freedom, finally


    If you’re feeling ready for something new, or just a little more you, this one will stay with you.


    👉 Watch now and take the first step toward your next chapter.


    Timestamps:

    03:44 Father’s influence and childhood story

    06:55 Early exposure to advertising

    08:12 Career path and starting agency

    09:56 Brand strategy principles explained

    13:34 Intuition and big ideas in branding

    16:34 Applying branding to personal identity

    18:33 Workshop transformations and examples

    20:04 Fast decision-making and creativity

    21:59 Rebranding midlife discussion

    24:50 Taglines and brand positioning

    27:28 Personal midlife transformation

    32:26 Moving to Santa Fe and lifestyle

    34:48 Wisdom bumper sticker

    39:21 Workshop experience and benefits


    Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/


    #MidlifeReinvention #RebrandYourLife #StartOverAt60 #LifeAfter50 #PersonalBranding #FindYourPurpose #CareerChange #NextChapter #SelfReinvention #WomenOver50 #LifeTransformation #PersonalGrowth #SecondAct #MeaningfulLife #MidlifeChrysalis

    46 min
  • Feeling Lost? Use Inner Tracking to Find Your Path| Lee Johnson

    Midlife can feel confusing, off track, or quietly unsettled, and you’re not the only one feeling it. 


    In this episode of Midlife Chrysalis, Lee Johnson, a mindfulness guide and teacher, shares his journey from ranch life to guiding others through mindfulness and “inner tracking,” offering a grounded and deeply human perspective on finding your way without a clear plan. 


    Here’s what you’ll take away:

    • Why feeling lost in midlife is often a turning point, not a problem

    • What inner tracking is and how it helps you make aligned decisions

    • How to trust your path even when nothing feels certain

    • Why disconnection is so common and how to reconnect with yourself

    • A simple awareness practice you can use right away 


    If midlife has you questioning your direction, this conversation will bring clarity and calm.

    Watch now and start finding your way back. 


    Timestamps:

    00:00 Introduction and welcome

    00:22 Lee Johnson’s origin story

    01:10 Early influences and spiritual mentors

    02:56 Energetic imprint and childhood experiences

    04:00 Alaska years and connection to nature

    05:30 Holistic health and yoga ashram journey

    07:09 Life at Kripalu and spiritual growth

    08:30 Native American teachings and Vipassana

    09:57 Regenerative agriculture and land philosophy

    12:09 Leaving the ranch and searching for purpose

    14:24 Joining the ranch and new beginnings

    17:17 Transition to teaching and inner work

    19:53 Self-doubt and stepping into leadership

    21:24 Discovering guided meditation and teaching

    22:53 Inner tracking explained

    27:37 Intuition and life path insights

    30:23 “I don’t know where I’m going…”

    31:33 Observations on midlife transformation

    35:28 Disconnection and modern life

    38:55 Guided inner tracking exercise

    44:03 Workshops and teaching approach

    47:29 Collaboration with partner Melanie

    48:26 Life advice and awareness practice

    52:57 Turning wounds into wisdom 


    Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/ 


    #MidlifeChrysalis #MidlifeTransformation #FindYourPurpose #LifeTransitions #InnerWork #MindfulnessPractice #PersonalGrowth #MidlifeJourney #SelfDiscovery #EmotionalWellbeing #LifeDirection #SpiritualGrowth #ReconnectWithYourself #InnerPeace #PurposeInMidlife

    1 hr 2 min
  • Stuck Between Aging Parents and Grown Kids in Midlife?

    You’re taking care of your parents. You’re supporting your kids. But who’s taking care of you?


    In this Wisdom Wednesday episode, Derek Gehl sits down with Chip Conley to unpack the reality of the sandwich generation and why midlife can feel more overwhelming than ever. 


    Chip shares key insights on:

    • The real emotional cost of caregiving

    • Why this stage of life feels heavier today

    • How to build a support system that actually helps

    • Why protecting time for yourself is essential


    A clear, honest conversation for anyone feeling stretched thin in midlife.


    👉 Watch the full episode and subscribe for more real conversations like this. 


    Timestamps:

    00:20 The sandwich generation

    01:24 Chip’s caregiving experience

    02:49 Importance of support system

    04:25 Emotional toll of caregiving

    07:31 Having kids later in life

    09:27 Adult kids moving back home

    10:27 Longevity and caregiving challenges

    12:56 Health span vs. lifespan

    15:12 Independence and interdependence

    16:50 Longevity manifesto explained

    18:06 Science vs art of longevity

    19:03 Blue Zones lifestyle insight

    20:18 Caregiver workshop challenge 


    Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/ 


    #SandwichGeneration #MidlifeStruggles #Caregiving #AgingParents #MidlifeCrisis #CaregiverLife #EmotionalBurnout #FamilyCare #Longevity #Healthspan #MidlifeSupport #PersonalGrowth #StressManagement #LifeTransitions #ChipConley

    20 min
  • Leading in Chaos: How to Stay Grounded Under Pressure | Amy Elizabeth Fox

    What if the chaos in your life isn’t the problem… but the turning point?


    In this episode, Amy Elizabeth Fox, leadership expert and co-founder of Mobius, explains why today’s pressure, uncertainty, and stress are actually pushing us to grow in a deeper way. Through her work with top executives and her own life story, she shows what it really takes to lead and stay grounded when everything feels unstable.


    Here’s what you’ll learn:

    • Why people fall back into old patterns under stress
    • How your past shapes the way you lead and live today
    • Why success in midlife can feel empty and how to change that
    • What it really means to lead in chaos
    • Why healing and self-awareness matter more than ever


    This is not just about leadership. It’s about understanding yourself on a deeper level.


    👉 Watch now if you feel overwhelmed, stuck, or ready for something more.


    Timestamps:

    2:43 What is vertical development

    4:10 Personal and professional growth merge

    5:29 Midlife leadership struggles

    8:24 Early life challenges and illness

    10:37 Genetic disease and urgency

    11:35 Spiritual and environmental work

    13:21 Leadership and spirituality connection

    15:35 Corporate transformation and culture

    19:29 Freedom after adversity

    21:08 Feminine leadership in business

    22:55 Leading in chaos introduction

    24:40 Spiritual path and teachers

    27:03 Spirituality in action

    28:42 Chaos and leadership today

    31:51 Key principles for leading in chaos

    35:00 Corporate reality and hope

    37:38 Midlife transformation insights

    40:25 What improves with age

    41:59 Freedom in midlife

    46:28 From receiving to giving

    47:24 Final wisdom and life philosophy


    ABOUT AMY ELIZABETH FOX:

    Bio: Amy Elizabeth Fox is the co-founder and CEO of Mobius Executive Leadership, a global transformational leadership firm. For over twenty years, she has advised senior leaders in eminent professional services firms and Fortune 500 companies on leadership and culture change. In 2026, she co-authored Leading in Chaos with Nicholas Janni and is widely regarded as an expert in vertical development and trauma-informed work in organizations.

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    Links:

    Leading in Chaos Book Website: https://leadinginchaosbook.com/

    Mobius Website: http://www.mobiusleadership.com/

    Amy’s Website: http://www.amyelizabethfox.com/


    ABOUT LEADING IN CHAOS

    Book Overview: Nicholas Janni and Amy Elizabeth Fox’s forthcoming book, Leading in Chaos, argues that in an era of polycrisis and sustained uncertainty, leadership requires next practice — a fundamentally different inner operating system grounded in deeper human intelligence. It reframes leadership as an embodied, developmental practice, calling leaders to act with coherence, presence, and integrity amid ongoing disruption. Because, in their words, “chaos is the new black.”


    Social media posts:

    • LinkedIn post
    • Instagram
    • Facebook

    Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/


    #Leadership #LeadingInChaos #PersonalGrowth #SelfAwareness #EmotionalIntelligence #MidlifeGrowth #BurnoutRecovery #StressManagement #InnerWork #HighPerformance #MindsetShift #ExecutiveLeadership #PsychologyOfSuccess #WorkplaceCulture #LeadershipDevelopment

    56 min

About The Midlife Chrysalis

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The Midlife Chrysalis is a one-hour podcast hosted by Chip Conley, bestselling author of Learning to Love Midlife and founder of MEA (Modern Elder Academy). Chip and his high-profile guests – including Maria Shriver, Hoda Kotb, Elizabeth Gilbert, Michael Franti, and more – dive into raw, vulnerable conversations about the profound transitions they’ve experienced in midlife.

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