Lisa sits down with Mourad, who, like Lisa, has sustained an over 100 pound weight loss for over a decade, to talk about his passion: the role of the mind in long term, sustainable weight loss.

Topics Include:

[7:00] Mourad shares how food became comfort at 5 years old, after being separated from his mother, and how people’s reaction his his eating exacerbated his struggle

[13:30] Lisa explains “The Volleyball Effect”

[15:00] Mourad reveals how he stumbled upon the Gabriel Method after yo-yo dieting and begins a meditation practice, and explains what his transformation entailed 

[24:00] Lisa and Mourad discuss how the energy they brought to their weight loss made it very different than a diet, despite some of the actions on the surface looking like dieting

[33:00] Mourad shares his thoughts on how to get to a place of acceptance and acceptance as a practice

[42:00] Mourad explains his belief that the mental aspect of maintaining his weight loss is more important than what he does on the physical level

[54:00] Lisa and Mourad talk about moving from perfectionism and over control to aiming for a state of flow

[1:03:00] Mourad responds to those that would say long term, sustainable weight loss is not possible

*The views of podcast guests do not necessarily reflect the views and beliefs of Lisa Schlosberg or Out of the Cave, LLC.

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