In this special episode of To The Point Home Services Podcast, Chris, Chad, and their good friend Aaron Gaynor (Eco Plumbers, Drains, Heating, & Cooling) dive deep into the pivotal turning points that shaped their businesses and personal journeys.

From the early grind of starting out, to breakthroughs with Nexstar, writing down big goals, creating a Vivid Vision, and learning from both wins and failures—this conversation is full of raw, unfiltered insights every contractor and home service leader can relate to.

You’ll hear about:

• The exact moments when each of them realized they had “a real business”
• Why writing down goals and building a strategy changed everything
• How to stay aligned with your vision during tough times
• The role of self-talk, affirmations, and personal growth in business success
• Hard lessons learned from making the wrong hires (and how to fix it)
• Why culture, leadership, and energy transfer matter more than you think
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And of course—some dad jokes to keep things light.

Whether you’re at $1M, $10M, or scaling toward $100M, this episode is packed with practical takeaways on leadership, growth, and resilience in the trades.

⏱️ Timecodes:

00:00 – Intro & catching up with Aaron

01:27 – The Turning Point: defining moments in business

08:00 – Realizing you’re running a successful business

12:00 – Writing down goals & building a long-term vision

20:00 – Vivid Vision & EOS: how to align your team

24:00 – Daily affirmations & self-talk for leaders

30:00 – Handling challenges & negative chapters in business

32:30 – Lessons from bad hires and how to avoid them

40:00 – Sales leadership: coaching vs. cutting ties

50:00 – Final takeaways on growth & leadership

📌 Resources & Mentions:

• Vivid Vision by Cameron Herold
• Double Double by Cameron Herold
• EOS (Entrepreneurial Operating System) framework
• Earl Nightingale – The Strangest Secret
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