In this episode of To The Point, hosts Chris and Chad sit down with Peter Capuciati (Chairman & CEO of Bluon) and Taylor Distler (VP of Biz Dev) for a no-filter, technician-first conversation on how Bluon is reshaping the HVAC industry.

What started as a research-driven mission to create better refrigerants turned into a full-blown tech solution that now serves over 150,000 technicians. From giving techs instant access to wiring diagrams and manuals, to drastically reducing callbacks and increasing billable hours, Bluon is more than an app—it's a tool for empowering the future of HVAC.

If you're an HVAC owner, tech, or operator looking for practical ways to reduce burnout, increase profits, and retain your best people—this one's for you.

🔥 Key Takeaways:

[01:06:04] Why Bluon was born out of frustration with inaccessible data

[01:07:00] How Peter went from physicist to HVAC disruptor

[01:08:00] The evolution from refrigerant R&D to technician empowerment

[01:10:00] Why HVAC techs were being "left blind" and how Bluon fixed it

[01:14:00] Business use cases: time savings, fewer callbacks, and tech retention

[01:15:00] How contractors are using Bluon as a recruiting advantage

📲 Resources & Mentions:

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🚀 No. Zero. Days.

🚀 In this power-packed episode of To The Point Home Services Podcast, Chris, Chad and Mike sit down with long-time friend and automation pioneer Tersh Blissett to unpack the real-world impact of AI and automation for contractors.

From building a remote HVAC company before it was trendy, to launching multiple businesses focused on solving pain points with automation, Tersh shares practical insights every service business owner should hear. You’ll learn the difference between AI and automation, what tools actually work, and how you can start streamlining your operations today.

🔧 Whether you're a contractor trying to cut down on repetitive tasks, looking to empower your CSRs, or curious about AI agents and how they’re reshaping the trades—this one’s for you.

🔑 Key Topics Covered:

• Why Tersh built his companies without traditional infrastructure (storage units as warehouses?!)
• The origins of his obsession with automation
• The difference between AI vs. Automation and why contractors confuse them
• How to turn monotonous work into automated processes
• Tools Tersh uses daily (ChatGPT, Trello, Slack, Manas.io, and more)
• How AI agents (like swarm agents) can do the work of a full content team
• Training and empowering employees—not replacing them—with AI
• How to evaluate your P&L using AI
• Using Slack GPTs and wearable tech like Limitless.ai & Plod for real-time productivity boosts
• Why em dashes are the telltale sign of AI-generated content 😅
• And of course... dad jokes 🤣

⏱️ Timecodes:

00:00 – Intro + Tersh’s return since 2020

01:35 – Chris gets real about his “proportionate” face 😆

07:00 – Dad jokes segment (you don’t want to miss “a reptile dysfunction”)

09:55 – Tersh’s journey into trades & automation

13:10 – The “Optimize > Automate > Delegate” framework

17:40 – Explaining AI vs. Automation

22:00 – Real-life examples of automations in ServiceTitan & Slack

28:00 – Should AI replace employees? (Spoiler: no, but it’ll make them better)

34:20 – Most common automations Tersh installs in businesses

37:10 – Zapier explained for contractors

39:00 – Using ChatGPT to manage email

42:00 – AI + relationships: how it helps Tersh communicate better with his wife 😂

44:00 – Tersh’s favorite AI tools: Manas.io, ChatGPT, Perplexity, Claude

47:00 – Custom GPTs for social media, HR policies, & business analysis

50:00 – AI-generated business valuations & financial reviews

51:08 – Final thoughts on using AI to work smarter, not harder

🔗 Resources Mentioned:

• Tersh’s Podcast: Service Business Mastery – https://www.servicebusinessmastery.com
• Tersh’s Company: Trade Automation Pros – https://tradeautomationpros.com

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🔧 Built for Olympians. Adapted for Guys Who Move the World.

If your back’s stiff, your shoulder clicks, or your knees feel older than you are—this episode’s a wake-up call.

Former U.S. National Gymnastics Coach Christopher Sommer spent decades building Olympians. Now he’s training the hardest-working men and women in America—trades pros, service techs, and business owners who can’t afford to break down.

You show up for the job. You carry the load at work, lead your team, and still go home with enough left to be there for your family.

But when your back tightens up, your shoulder goes out, or your energy fades, everything suffers—your business, your people, your peace of mind.

This isn’t about getting fit. It’s about getting free. Staying strong enough to keep showing up where it matters most—without pain holding you back.

🔑 Key Takeaways:

• The power of playing the long game: thinking in 3–5 year blocks, not 3–5 months
• "No brain, no gain": why smart training beats “no pain, no gain” every time
• Why talent alone isn’t enough — and why most naturally gifted athletes fail
• How elite-level discipline and systems translate to business leadership
• How to hire, coach, and lead high-performers (and why most people aren't built to be entrepreneurs)
• Building character, not just champions — why the long game is always about people

🕒 Timecodes:

00:00 – Intro & how Chris met Coach Sommer

02:00 – Coach Sommer’s background: 40 years of gymnastics excellence

05:15 – From athletes to business: mindset shifts that matter

09:00 – The problem with 3–5 month thinking

12:30 – What makes an elite performer: talent vs. grit

17:30 – GymnasticBodies: building strength for everyone

20:00 – How Coach helped SEAL Team 6 and NFL/NHL pros recover

24:00 – “No brain, no gain” — redefining performance

30:00 – Lessons in leadership & managing high-level talent

35:00 – Steve Jobs, Saban, and high-achiever psychology

42:00 – The truth about scaling, mediocrity, and maintaining excellence

49:00 – Premium pricing for premium service — no shortcuts

53:00 – Coaches need coaches: how to stay accountable

58:00 – Final thoughts & lessons for business owners

🔗 Resources & Mentions:

• GymnasticBodies: https://www.gymnasticbodies.com
• Coach Sommer on Tim Ferriss Podcast (200+ million downloads) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRFEb8KJC2I
• Sports Illustrated profile on Coach Sommer - https://www.si.com/everyday-athlete/stories/the-brutal-truth-about-building-elite-athletes-lessons-from-gymnastics-coach-chris-sommer-01jtdv06te4d

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In this high-impact episode, Chris Yano and Chad Peterman sit down with Chris Crew, President of Blue Collar Success Group, for a masterclass in operational excellence, scalable leadership, and real-world sales strategy in the trades. With over two decades of experience—from quitting school in 10th grade to building and selling a $30M electrical service company—Chris shares battle-tested lessons that every contractor, coach, and operator can learn from.

✅ Whether you're running one truck or pushing $30M+ in revenue, Chris’s advice is practical, scalable, and immediately applicable.

🧠 WHAT YOU’LL LEARN:

• How Chris Crew scaled his electrical company from $3M to $30M in under 4 years 📈
• Why operational breakdowns—not external factors—are usually what stall growth 🔧
• The importance of pricing correctly (and how most businesses get this wrong) 💰
• Why sales and operations need to be best friends, not bitter rivals 🤝
• How to segment training for maximum team development 📚
• Why “shiny object syndrome” kills momentum and how to implement tools like Rilla and PeakZ the right way 🛠️
• The truth about year-round training—especially during the busy season 🔄

⏱️ TIMECODES:

00:01:35 – Introductions & Blue Collar roots

00:07:15 – Chris’s journey: from dropping out to $30M electrical business

00:14:06 – Sales + ops: why Chris combines both and how it creates synergy

00:15:29 – What contractors are getting wrong right now

00:18:07 – Coaching tiers: why BCSG isn’t “one-size-fits-all”

00:19:11 – Most common problems contractors don’t know they have

00:25:16 – “Small hinges swing large doors”: operational accountability

00:27:04 – Growth timeline: $3M to $30M in under 4 years

00:31:09 – Year-round training: why summer is the BEST time to train

00:35:11 – Roleplaying, segmented training, and building elite teams

00:42:14 – How AI tools fail without full adoption

00:45:13 – Tech overload: how to avoid half-baked integrations

00:49:50 – Training managers on new tech: the missing step

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In this engaging podcast episode, NFL legend Terry Bradshaw shares captivating stories and insights from his illustrious career and life beyond football. He delves into his philosophy on resilience, recounting how he overcame setbacks from his early days in the NFL to personal challenges. Bradshaw also touches upon his unique experiences as a car salesman and fishing guide during his off-seasons in the NFL, revealing his sales approach and the significant differences in player salaries and endorsements then versus now.

A significant portion of the discussion revolves around his tumultuous relationship with his Steelers coach, Chuck Noll, and how their clashing personalities ultimately shaped him. He emphasizes the importance of teamwork built on love and understanding, even with diverse personalities and egos, drawing parallels between his championship Steelers teams and business environments. Bradshaw shares his "process" for his horse business, prioritizing employee well-being and a positive work atmosphere. He also offers his perspective on the ongoing debate of talent versus process in team management, referencing Nick Saban's coaching philosophy and Jimmy Johnson's approach to superstars. The episode concludes with Bradshaw discussing current NFL topics, including Jerry Jones's role as Cowboys general manager and his thoughts on various NFL coaches.

Timecodes:

00:00 - 07:37 Introduction & Personal Anecdotes  

07:38 - 13:52 Defining Resilience  

13:53 - 22:13 The 1974 Benching & Coach Noll  

22:14 - 26:40 Team Dynamics & Leadership

26:40 - 31:19 Early NFL Earnings & Off-Season Jobs

31:19 - 36:39 Sales Philosophy 

36:39 - 44:58 Talent vs. Process in Management 

44:58 - 47:28 Employee Relations & Values 

48:07 - 51:59 Dallas Cowboys & Jerry Jones 

52:00 - 57:22 Favorite Coaches & Final Thoughts 

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In this episode of To The Point Home Services, we sit down with Daryl Bingham, President of Parker & Sons, to unpack the transformative power of trust, accountability, and people development in the trades. With decades of leadership experience, Daryl shares how intentional culture-building leads to higher-performing teams and sustainable growth.

🔑 Key Takeaways:

• Why trust is the foundation of a high-performing culture.
• The three leadership buckets: visionary, relational, and operational—and how great leaders leverage all three.
• Why accountability isn’t punitive, but a form of support.
• How to develop your people through coaching, feedback, and belief.
• Daryl’s career journey from technician to VP, and the mentors that shaped his path.
• Actionable strategies for training field leaders, creating safe environments, and multiplying leadership capacity.

⏱️ Timecodes:

00:00 – Intro to Daryl Bingham

02:45 – Daryl's early career and lessons from the field

06:20 – Defining accountability as support

09:50 – The three leadership buckets explained

13:15 – Why people don't do what they're supposed to

16:40 – Culture-building at Service Champions

20:30 – Training field leaders effectively

25:10 – Creating psychological safety

29:45 – The cost of poor leadership

33:00 – From technician to organizational leader

37:20 – How to grow people through belief and coaching

41:50 – Final thoughts and leadership wisdom

📚 Resources & Mentions:

• The Path Less Traveled Newsletter: https://thepathlesstraveled.beehiiv.com
• Book mentioned: The Speed of Trust by Stephen M. R. Covey
• Connect with Daryl Bingham on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daryl-bingham-0b44aa36/

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In this episode, we sit down with Keegan Hodges, co-founder of Best Home Services and now Chairman of Garage Door Partners. Keegan shares his incredible journey from working in his family’s electrical company to building one of the largest residential garage door businesses in the country. He dives into the risks he took, lessons learned from mentors like Jamie DiDominico, and how he’s transitioned skills from HVAC to the garage space. It’s a must-listen for anyone scaling a home services company.

🔥 What You’ll Learn:

• The origin story of Best Home Services (and how credit cards helped start it!)

• How mentorship shaped Keegan’s business strategies

• Private equity partnerships: risks, rewards, and lessons

• Why “implementation” trumps information

• The mindset behind greenfield vs acquisition growth strategies

• What Keegan would do differently in sales culture and customer experience

• The power of delayed gratification and execution speed

📚 Resources & Mentions:

• Nexstar Network: https://www.nexstarnetwork.com/

• CEO Warrior (Mike Agugliaro): https://ceowarrior.com/

• Tommy Mello & A1 Garage: https://a1garage.com/

• RYNOx Events: https://rynoss.com/

📍 Timecodes:

00:00 – Intro banter + dad jokes

04:00 – Meet Keegan Hodges + Best Home Services background

10:00 – How marketing and risk propelled growth

17:00 – Traits of successful entrepreneurs

22:00 – Implementation vs Perfection

29:00 – Sales culture & putting the customer first

33:00 – Lessons from private equity and transitioning to Garage Door Partners

36:00 – Building a business for longevity, not the quick win

40:00 – Acquisition vs Greenfield

45:00 – What Keegan looks for in a tuck-in acquisition

50:00 – Old-school operations and what still works

58:00 – Final takeaways & wrap-up

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In this inspiring episode of To The Point Home Services, hosts Chris and Chad welcome a true powerhouse in franchising, leadership, and entrepreneurial grit—Jeff Dudan. From humble beginnings as a student-athlete to founding a nationwide restoration business and leading HomeFront Brands, Jeff shares a journey that’s as tactical as it is motivating.

Learn how Jeff went from coaching youth sports to mentoring business owners, all while balancing purpose, people, and performance. Whether you’re in franchising, home services, or simply passionate about building something meaningful, Jeff drops decades worth of actionable insight.

💬 Key Topics Discussed:

• Jeff's journey from athlete to franchise mogul
• Building and exiting AdvantaClean
• Why he started HomeFront Brands and his mission to empower franchisees
• What makes or breaks a franchise model
• The importance of discernment, discipline, and doing the work
• Real stories of transformation, tragedy, and triumph in business
• The Undercover Boss experience and its lasting impact
• Training leaders and franchisees for long-term success

📚 Resources & Mentions:

• Jeff’s book “Discernment: The Business Athlete's Regimen for a Great Life through Better Decisions” → https://tr.ee/Once7G
• Jeff’s podcast → On the Homefront with Jeff Dudan
• Learn more about Homefront Brands - https://homefrontbrands.com/
• Connect with Jeff on LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffdudan/
• I Am Leader Book set - https://tr.ee/0LBrXB

🕒 Timecodes:

00:00 – Welcome + Dad Jokes

03:00 – Introducing Jeff Dudan: The Best Intro Ever

08:00 – From Athlete to Entrepreneur

12:00 – The Power of Grit and Rebuilding After Disaster

18:30 – Why Jeff Started HomeFront Brands

21:00 – What Makes a Franchise Work (or Fail)

26:00 – Servant Leadership & Supporting Franchisees

30:00 – Balancing Risk, Scale & Passion Projects

37:00 – Coaching Kids vs. Coaching Entrepreneurs

42:00 – Lessons from Undercover Boss

46:00 – Handling Tragedy and Real Life in Business

50:00 – Creating Systems for Growth

54:00 – Chris & Chad’s Reflections + Final Thoughts

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In this quick-hitting micro episode, Chris Yano checks in mid-year to help you refocus, realign, and recommit. Are you following through on the plans you made earlier this year—or have they slipped? Chris covers how to get gritty, evaluate your brand message, embrace AI booking agents, and boost CSR performance. He shares lessons from the field, tips for the slower season, and a reminder that it's okay to reset your goals—just don’t stall out.

Topics include:

• Accountability check-in for mid-year goals
• The power of brand story (shoutout to Dan Antonelli & Prolific Brand Design)
• Real-world impact of AI booking agents
• CSR coaching and performance pay contests
• When and how to reset your revenue goals
• Getting gritty and preparing for Q3/Q4

If you're in the home services industry and want to finish strong this year, this episode is for you.

⏱ TIMECODES

00:00 – Intro: A no-fluff RYNO micro-dose

00:18 – The theme: Grit, growth, and getting after it

00:51 – Mid-year check-in: Are you following through?

01:34 – Don't be a show pony – execute on your plans

01:53 – Branding shoutout to Dan Antonelli + Goettl's story

02:46 – Is your team living your brand internally?

03:07 – Shoutout: Prolific Brand Design + Redbird Roofing

03:53 – Rebrand = Rebirth (start thinking about 2026 now)

04:39 – Peer group wisdom: AI booking agents outperforming CSRs

05:13 – CSR efficiency and cost vs. AI

06:13 – Call center performance pay and contests

07:03 – CSR training: prepping for chaos & opportunity

07:20 – Traxion Coaching Program shoutout

08:21 – Don’t fear a reset: Adjust goals when necessary

09:05 – Redbird Roofing realignment example

09:36 – Get gritty while it’s busy—prepare for the slowdown

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10:44 – Leave us a review! It matters 🙌

10:58 – Final thoughts: “No zero days”

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Welcome back to To The Point Home Services Podcast! In this powerful episode, we sit down with Chris Hoffmann, CEO of Hoffmann Brothers, for a deep dive into what it really takes to scale a home services empire—without losing your mind or your mission.

 We cover everything from military leadership lessons to price book strategies that actually make sense. Plus, Chris Yano shares major news from RYNO Strategic Solutions, including a new president (and it’s someone you already know!).

 🔥 What You'll Learn in This Episode:

• The mindset behind Hoffmann Brothers’ explosive growth
• The 2x2 matrix Chris uses to prioritize change after acquisitions
• How to prepare operationally for the summer busy season
• Building and running training academies post-COVID
• Veteran leadership skills that translate into business success
• Dynamic pricing and perceived value in electrical/HVAC service calls

💡 Key Takeaways:

• Growth isn’t about a secret sauce—it’s about discipline, clarity, and strategic market expansion.
• Prioritize change using impact vs. effort to avoid overwhelming teams.
• Use seasonal lulls to invest in training and build “flex crews” to scale up fast.
• Fair pricing is about what customers perceive as valuable—bundle smart and bill wisely.

📌 Timecodes:

00:00 – Intro and major news from RYNO

02:00 – Chris Hoffmann joins the show

07:00 – Military background and leadership takeaways

13:00 – The secret to sustained growth in tough markets

17:00 – Breaking down operational excellence post-acquisition

22:00 – Building trust through better compensation models

28:00 – Price book strategy: high vs. low perceived value

35:00 – Flex crews and busy season tactics

42:00 – The power of next-day install guarantees

46:00 – Training and staffing in shoulder seasons

50:00 – Final thoughts and humor to close things out

🔗 Resources & Mentions:

• Hoffmann Brothers
• RYNO Strategic Solutions
• Prolific Brand Design
• Blue Collar Success Group
• Mentioned book: Extreme Ownership by Jocko Willink (for leadership insights)

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