In this rendition of The Way Out I’m pleased to bring you my interview with Founder of Bellwhether Executive Development Firm, author, podcaster, and person in long term Recovery Jim Frawley. Jim shares with us his journey to and through recovery to this point and his individual pathway which on the surface may appear to be unconventional in that Jim didn’t follow any particular pathway per se nor does Jim consider himself a member of any recovery organization or group. Despite these surface level differences to those who do follow a defined recovery pathway like the 12-Steps or SMART Recovery, as is so

Reach out to Jim Frawley: https://www.jimfrawley.com/

Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: This Is How by Augusten Burroughs -https://a.co/d/8xbaprG

Best pieces of Recovery advice: It's easier to have zero than just one. It is hard to be satisfied with life, if you’re never satisfied with yourself. Focus on what you can control.

Song that symbolizes Recovery to Jim: No Hard Feelings by The Avett Brothers -https://youtu.be/tFGs7HP15d4?si=_D4mnMl-smamrGxS

Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz

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In this edition of The Way Out I’m beyond honored to bring you my interview with person in long term recovery and host of the Hopeaholics podcast, Chad Carlsen. Chad shares his truly incredible and made for TV journey to and through Recovery with us and all about what motivated him to create and host the Hopaholics Podcast, where Chad found his true calling: Helping people suffering from addiction and mental illness to get the treatment they deserve. When his soon to be son-in-law died of fentanyl poisoning, Chad’s drive to fight the opioid epidemic redoubled. The Hopeaholics is not just a podcast. It’s a movement to conquer a nation’s fentanyl-fueled addiction crisis. The

Contact Chad Carlsen and learn more about Hopeaholics Podcast:

https://thehopeaholics.com/

Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) recommendation: NA Basic Text - https://a.co/d/apz1AzY

Best piece of Recovery advice: Don't pick up no matter what.

Song that symbolizes Recovery to Chad: Not Afraid by Eminem - https://youtu.be/j5-yKhDd64s?si=p3k9NSGigGB4e29B

Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz

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In this edition of The Way Out I’m honored to bring you my interview with certified personal trainer, model, real estate investor, and Person in long term recovery Jonathan Niziol. An additional word of caution, this episode contains subject matter that may be disturbing, including discussion of sexual assault. If you or someone you know is in crisis, please call or text 988 24 hours a day 7 days a week. Jonathan shares his journey to and through recovery to this point with us with remarkable honesty and his story is proof positive of two truths we’ve demonstrated many times on this podcast. First, the only true

Contact Jonathan:

https://www.jonathanniziolofficial.com/

Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: How to Win Friends & Influence by Dale Carnegie - https://a.co/d/63VR0yo

Best piece of Recovery advice: Focus on the positive!

Song that symbolizes Recovery to Jonathan: Enjoy the Silence by Depeche Mode - https://youtu.be/aGSKrC7dGcY?si=URdyZH-8i1tsNxGX

Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz

(c) 2015 - 2024 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)