They Think It's All Sober

Can you believe it! Season 9 comes to a close! 

Jamie and Tom look back on the conversations from Season 9, catch up on what’s been happening with their sobriety, and get into the big news that Brad Pitt is drinking again after 7 years sober! Let us know your thoughts @theythinkitsallsober

Thank you all for tuning it! We will be back soon for Season 10

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This week we’re joined by Ben Dean, founder of Raven Records and author of Uncover Satan, Recover Thyself: A Rational Satanic Recovery.

After years of struggling with alcohol, Ben walked into Alcoholics Anonymous at 24 and began a recovery journey that would eventually lead him to build his own approach around Rational Satanism, personal responsibility and the idea that recovery doesn’t have to look the same for everyone. His book explores how Satanic philosophy can sit alongside the principles of the 12 Steps, while also bringing in science, exercise, nutrition, ritual and a much broader understanding of addiction. (Satanic Recovery)

We get into what “Satanic recovery” actually means, the misconceptions around Satanism, where Ben agrees and disagrees with traditional recovery programmes, and why finding a recovery system that genuinely speaks to you can matter more than following somebody else’s rulebook.

We also talk music, running a record label, identity after addiction and the strange ways our lives can completely change once we stop drinking.

A properly fascinating conversation about belief, rebellion, responsibility and finding your own route out.

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This week, we’re talking about fitness, sobriety and the strange line between doing something because it makes you feel good and feeling like you have to do it just to feel okay.

Jamie talks about the shame cycle that used to come with drinking: waking up hungover, feeling awful about himself, promising to do better and then eventually doing it all over again. Now, years into sobriety, he’s noticed something familiar creeping into his relationship with the gym.

Training six or seven days a week feels incredible. It gives him routine, endorphins, confidence and a positive outlet that works brilliantly alongside sobriety. But what happens when missing a workout brings guilt? When you start obsessing over calories, weight, steps and how your body looks? Have you actually broken the cycle, or have you just found a healthier-looking place to put it?

We talk about why so many of us throw ourselves into fitness after getting sober, when that can be an incredibly positive thing, and when discipline can quietly start turning into obsession.

Because the aim isn’t to stop caring about fitness. It’s learning how to let it add to your life without letting it run your life.

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How do you hide a cocaine addiction when you’re the person everyone depends on?

This week, we’re joined by Kaitlin Reeve, the creator behind @soberasamotherfocused, for one of our most raw conversations yet. Kaitlin opens up about living a double life as a mother battling cocaine addiction, the lies she told herself, the fear of being exposed, and how quickly everything she cared about came close to falling apart.

We talk about the guilt of parenting while in active addiction, the stigma that keeps so many mothers silent, and the moment she realised she had to choose between continuing down a path that was destroying her or fighting for the life she wanted.

This is an unflinching conversation about addiction, shame, recovery and redemption. It’s a reminder that addiction doesn’t discriminate and that no matter how dark things become, there is always a way back.

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A relapse doesn’t erase your progress, and a blip doesn’t have to become a full return to old habits. In this episode, we talk honestly about what happens when things don’t go to plan, why shame keeps so many people stuck, and how to get back on track without writing yourself off. Whether you’ve slipped, you’re supporting someone who has, or you’re living with the fear that it might happen one day, this is a conversation about honesty, compassion, and remembering that recovery isn’t about perfection; it’s about what you do next.

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This week, Jamie and Tom sit down with the host of Class A People to talk about addiction, how quickly drugs can take a hold on your life, and the long road back. Hannah opens up about rebuilding her life from scratch, how recovery led her to create one of the UK’s most honest platforms for conversations around addiction, and why she’s determined to challenge the stigma that still exists.

They also dive into life with adult ADHD, how it intersects with addiction and recovery, and the realities of trying to build a career and a sense of self when your brain works differently.

It’s a conversation about resilience, identity, and proving that your lowest point doesn’t have to define the rest of your life.

“It’s coming home…” or is it? As England once again dares to dream, Jamie and Tom use football fever as the perfect jumping-off point for a much bigger conversation about identity, hope, and who we become when we strip away the things that used to define us.

Getting sober isn’t just about giving something up. It’s about figuring out who you actually are without alcohol. What do you enjoy? What do you stand for? And how do you build a life that genuinely feels like yours?

This week, Jamie and Tom dive into the surprising strength that comes from saying yes to new experiences, stepping outside your comfort zone and rediscovering joy. But they also explore something that’s just as important: knowing when to say no. Setting boundaries, protecting your peace, and realising that sobriety isn’t about pleasing everyone. It’s about being true to yourself.

Whether England finally brings it home or not, this episode is all about finding your own way home, to yourself.

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Our sober psychotherapist, David Gibbs, is back!!

David returns with a fresh perspective on life 13+ years into sobriety! Together, he, Jamie and Tom have a raw and honest conversation about missing the fun of drinking, where to find excitement without alcohol, and why a little hedonism might not be such a bad thing after all...

Plus, the boys answer your listener questions!

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BBC Radio 1 DJ Danny Howard joins Jamie and Tom to chat about taking a year off alcohol, dipping in and out of sobriety, finding what works for him, and why non-alcoholic drinks have become a game changer!

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. Great North Run

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. Royal Parks Half Marathon

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It's a Jamie & Tom World Cup Special!

The boys reflect on their experiences of navigating World Cups and football sober! Sharing what's changed, how they deal with the pressure to drink, and advice on what's helped them for anyone wanting to enjoy the tournament booze free

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. Rise and Raise

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. Try Dry

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