In this conversation, Kevin Russ shares his journey from being a landscape nature photographer to becoming an avid thru-hiker and ultra runner. He discusses the transition from long-distance hiking to ultra running, the mental resilience required for both activities, and the importance of sleep strategies in ultra running. Kevin also delves into how his passion for photography intertwines with his outdoor adventures, and he shares his excitement and concerns about participating in the Cocodona 250 race. In this conversation, Kevin Goldberg shares insights on preparing for ultra-endurance events, particularly focusing on nutrition, the mental challenges of solitude, and the introspective nature of long-distance running. He discusses the logistics of planning for both thru-hiking and ultra running, offering advice for newcomers to the sport. The conversation also touches on essential gear for hiking and running, as well as the importance of mental distractions during long stretches on the trail. Kevin reflects on his personal highs and lows from his experiences, emphasizing the growth and learning that come from these adventures.