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Austen Hartke is a transgender Christian man who wrote the book Transforming: the Bible and the Lives of Transgender Christians. The book is a gift to the trans Christian community, as well as to parents, church leaders, and the church in general. While the church and politicians debate and degrade transgender people's existence, they are trying to live lives without loneliness, isolation, and self-hatred. Austen's book does an incredible job of sharing the stories of real life trans and non-binary people who grew up in the church. He frames the conversation Biblically and theologically and shares his own story. We're excited to share Austen's voice and perspective, and to do something that far too few people are doing today--actually listening to the perspective and story of trans people who are trying to love themselves and love Jesus.

The resources Austen mentions in the interview are:

• Transmission Ministry Collective
• Transfaith: A Transgender Pastoral Resource - Christina Beardsley & Chris Dowd

The beverage we sample in the episode is Chicken Cock Kentucky Straight Rye from our friends at Story Hill BKC.

The beverage tasting is at 2:20. To skip to the main segment, go to 5:50.

You can find the transcript for this episode here.

Content note: this episode contains discussion of suicide that may not be suitable for younger listeners.

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