Off the Fence with Karen Covy: Mastering Decision Making, Divorce & More

Trapped in Victim Mode? How to Flip Your Drama Triangle


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Life often throws curveballs that leave us feeling overwhelmed or trapped - especially during challenging times like divorce. But it doesn't have to stay that way. Dr. Carrie Johansson, a psychologist and author affectionately known as "The Sensible Psychologist," introduces a powerful yet simple framework that will shift you out of the "Drama Triangle" so you can reclaim your life. 

Throughout this podcast episode, Dr. Johansson reveals practical tools that allow you to honestly assess your situation without judgment and finally break free from the cycle of avoidance that’s keeping you stuck. She also highlights the crucial mindset shift that will help you stop waiting for motivation and move forward into action.

Dr. Johansson also challenges conventional wisdom about relationships, suggesting that collaboration - NOT compromise - leads to healthier partnerships. By changing predictable conflict patterns and accepting that some disagreements may never be fully resolved, couples can move from resentment to understanding, creating relationships that feel less like work and more like joy.

Dr. Johansson’s straightforward yet compassionate approach helps you discover your "next best move" in any situation, guiding you toward the outcomes you truly desire.

About Dr. Johansson

Dr Carrie Johansson is a psychologist turned speaker and author. Fondly known as The Sensible Psychologist, she works with teams, corporate audiences and dedicated individuals, to build resilience and help them skillfully navigate life’s inevitable ups and downs. On a personal note, Dr. Carrie works her own program to create a life she really enjoys. One of her favorite pastimes is baking muffins, ask her for your favorite flavor and she’ll make them for you!

Connect with Dr. Johansson

Connect with Dr. Johansson on Facebook at Dr. Carrie Johansson and LinkedIn at Self Help on the Go and follow her on YouTube. To find out more about the work Dr. Johansson does visit her website at Self Help On The Go and grab her book Self Help On The Go.


Karen Covy is a Divorce Coach and Consultant, Lawyer, Author, and Speaker who is dedicated to helping people make the best decisions possible for themselves, their families, and their future - especially in stressful times. You can check out Karen's videos on YouTube.

You can connect with Karen on LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and on her own website at karencovy.com.


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