Alex Sujong Laughlin interviews Defector's very own Jasper Wang about the choice he made to step off the achievement treadmill in his early 30s — and how that led to the creation of Defector Media. Episode transcript here: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vPfZCoO_NFuYmE1zT0gZK7uridKEC8KJVoSxOaap4ws/edit?usp=sharing">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vPfZCoO_NFuYmE1zT0gZK7uridKEC8KJVoSxOaap4ws/edit?usp=sharing</a> 🏷️: Career success, achievement treadmill, money and happiness, leaving Bain, consulting career, corporate ladder, Defector, worker-owned media, socialist media, entrepreneurship, career change, financial freedom, defining success, how much money is enough, work-life balance, making less money, alternative careers, business for good, sports media, Jasper Wang *** Follow Alex Sujong Laughlin on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/alexlaughs/">https://www.instagram.com/alexlaughs/</a> Email Alex: alex[at]defector.com Subscribe to Defector Media: <a href="https://defector.com/">https://defector.com/</a> Check out Try Hard in audio form: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/try-hard/id1824016771">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/try-hard/id1824016771</a> *** Credits: This show is produced by Haleema Shah and Alex Sujong Laughlin. Mixing by Samantha Gattsek. Justin Ellis is Defector’s projects editor. Our show art is by Lille Allen. Our theme song is “Photo Booth,” by Avery Friedman. Jasper Wang is Defector’s business guy. Thank you to the Defector staff and to Sean Kuhn. Our merch store was created by Dan McQuade. Defector Media is a collectively owned, subscriber based media company. Try Hard is a proud member of Radiotopia.

Alex Sujong Laughlin interviews Defector's very own Jasper Wang about the choice he made to step off the achievement treadmill in his early 30s — and how that led to the creation of Defector Media. Episode transcript here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vPfZCoO_NFuYmE1zT0gZK7uridKEC8KJVoSxOaap4ws/edit?usp=sharing 🏷️: Career success, achievement treadmill, money and happiness, leaving Bain, consulting career, corporate ladder, Defector, worker-owned media, socialist media, entrepreneurship, career change, financial freedom, defining success, how much money is enough, work-life balance, making less money, alternative careers, business for good, sports media, Jasper Wang *** Follow Alex Sujong Laughlin on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/alexlaughs/ Email Alex: alex[at]defector.com Subscribe to Defector Media: https://defector.com/ Check out Try Hard in audio form: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/try-hard/id1824016771 *** Credits: This show is produced by Haleema Shah and Alex Sujong Laughlin. Mixing by Samantha Gattsek. Justin Ellis is Defector’s projects editor. Our show art is by Lille Allen. Our theme song is “Photo Booth,” by Avery Friedman. Jasper Wang is Defector’s business guy. Thank you to the Defector staff and to Sean Kuhn. Our merch store was created by Dan McQuade. Defector Media is a collectively owned, subscriber based media company. Try Hard is a proud member of Radiotopia.

Alex Sujong Laughlin interviews Defector's very own Jasper Wang about the choice he made to step off the achievement treadmill in his early 30s — and how that led to the creation of Defector Media. Episode transcript here: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vPfZCoO_NFuYmE1zT0gZK7uridKEC8KJVoSxOaap4ws/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vPfZCoO_NFuYmE1zT0gZK7uridKEC8KJVoSxOaap4ws/edit?usp=sharing</a> 🏷️: Career success, achievement treadmill, money and happiness, leaving Bain, consulting career, corporate ladder, Defector, worker-owned media, socialist media, entrepreneurship, career change, financial freedom, defining success, how much money is enough, work-life balance, making less money, alternative careers, business for good, sports media, Jasper Wang *** Follow Alex Sujong Laughlin on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/alexlaughs/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.instagram.com/alexlaughs/</a> Email Alex: alex[at]defector.com Subscribe to Defector Media: <a href="https://defector.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://defector.com/</a> Check out Try Hard in audio form: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/try-hard/id1824016771" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/try-hard/id1824016771</a> *** Credits: This show is produced by Haleema Shah and Alex Sujong Laughlin. Mixing by Samantha Gattsek. Justin Ellis is Defector’s projects editor. Our show art is by Lille Allen. Our theme song is “Photo Booth,” by Avery Friedman. Jasper Wang is Defector’s business guy. Thank you to the Defector staff and to Sean Kuhn. Our merch store was created by Dan McQuade. Defector Media is a collectively owned, subscriber based media company. Try Hard is a proud member of Radiotopia.

He left corporate for a socialist pirate ship

Alex Sujong Laughlin interviews Hrishikesh Hirway of the podcasts Song Exploder, West Wing Weekly, and Home Cooking, about his music career right after the release of his new album, In The Last Hour of Light. Episode transcript here: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_JOiqmLY7dA12mVv0SmhJkiyKybpGZwashjgwhDnQC8/edit?usp=sharing">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_JOiqmLY7dA12mVv0SmhJkiyKybpGZwashjgwhDnQC8/edit?usp=sharing</a> 🏷️: Hrishikesh Hirway, Song Exploder, Try Hard podcast, Alex Sujong Laughlin, Hrishikesh Hirway interview, Hrishikesh Hirway musician, In the Last Hour of Light, songwriting, creativity, creative process, perfectionism, writer's block, creative burnout, creative block, artistic identity, creative identity, making music, making an album, songwriting process, collaboration, letting go, fear of failure, trusting the process, creative confidence, artistic growth, finding your voice, musician, music podcast, creativity tips, overcoming perfectionism *** Follow Alex Sujong Laughlin on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/alexlaughs/">https://www.instagram.com/alexlaughs/</a> Email Alex: alex[at]defector.com Subscribe to Defector Media: <a href="https://defector.com/">https://defector.com/</a> *** Credits: This show is produced by Haleema Shah and Alex Sujong Laughlin. Mixing by Samantha Gattsek. Justin Ellis is Defector’s projects editor. Our show art is by Lille Allen. Our theme song is “Photo Booth,” by Avery Friedman. Jasper Wang is Defector’s business guy. Thank you to the Defector staff and to Sean Kuhn. Our merch store was created by Dan McQuade. Defector Media is a collectively owned, subscriber based media company. Try Hard is a proud member of Radiotopia.

Alex Sujong Laughlin interviews Hrishikesh Hirway of the podcasts Song Exploder, West Wing Weekly, and Home Cooking, about his music career right after the release of his new album, In The Last Hour of Light. Episode transcript here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_JOiqmLY7dA12mVv0SmhJkiyKybpGZwashjgwhDnQC8/edit?usp=sharing 🏷️: Hrishikesh Hirway, Song Exploder, Try Hard podcast, Alex Sujong Laughlin, Hrishikesh Hirway interview, Hrishikesh Hirway musician, In the Last Hour of Light, songwriting, creativity, creative process, perfectionism, writer's block, creative burnout, creative block, artistic identity, creative identity, making music, making an album, songwriting process, collaboration, letting go, fear of failure, trusting the process, creative confidence, artistic growth, finding your voice, musician, music podcast, creativity tips, overcoming perfectionism *** Follow Alex Sujong Laughlin on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/alexlaughs/ Email Alex: alex[at]defector.com Subscribe to Defector Media: https://defector.com/ *** Credits: This show is produced by Haleema Shah and Alex Sujong Laughlin. Mixing by Samantha Gattsek. Justin Ellis is Defector’s projects editor. Our show art is by Lille Allen. Our theme song is “Photo Booth,” by Avery Friedman. Jasper Wang is Defector’s business guy. Thank you to the Defector staff and to Sean Kuhn. Our merch store was created by Dan McQuade. Defector Media is a collectively owned, subscriber based media company. Try Hard is a proud member of Radiotopia.

Alex Sujong Laughlin interviews Hrishikesh Hirway of the podcasts Song Exploder, West Wing Weekly, and Home Cooking, about his music career right after the release of his new album, In The Last Hour of Light. Episode transcript here: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_JOiqmLY7dA12mVv0SmhJkiyKybpGZwashjgwhDnQC8/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_JOiqmLY7dA12mVv0SmhJkiyKybpGZwashjgwhDnQC8/edit?usp=sharing</a> 🏷️: Hrishikesh Hirway, Song Exploder, Try Hard podcast, Alex Sujong Laughlin, Hrishikesh Hirway interview, Hrishikesh Hirway musician, In the Last Hour of Light, songwriting, creativity, creative process, perfectionism, writer's block, creative burnout, creative block, artistic identity, creative identity, making music, making an album, songwriting process, collaboration, letting go, fear of failure, trusting the process, creative confidence, artistic growth, finding your voice, musician, music podcast, creativity tips, overcoming perfectionism *** Follow Alex Sujong Laughlin on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/alexlaughs/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.instagram.com/alexlaughs/</a> Email Alex: alex[at]defector.com Subscribe to Defector Media: <a href="https://defector.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://defector.com/</a> *** Credits: This show is produced by Haleema Shah and Alex Sujong Laughlin. Mixing by Samantha Gattsek. Justin Ellis is Defector’s projects editor. Our show art is by Lille Allen. Our theme song is “Photo Booth,” by Avery Friedman. Jasper Wang is Defector’s business guy. Thank you to the Defector staff and to Sean Kuhn. Our merch store was created by Dan McQuade. Defector Media is a collectively owned, subscriber based media company. Try Hard is a proud member of Radiotopia.

When your side project becomes your identity

Cartoonist Mattie Lubchansky hates exercising in front of people, so in this first episode of Try Hard, she's trying out a real life yoga class full of real life strangers! By the way, you should buy Mattie's new book, <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/simplicity-mattie-lubchansky/21997655?aid=79623">Simplicity</a>! Episode transcript <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MIMo6n6hBCKfq1uSTxuCjerObU9kVqw0Ed1-GSw77Y8/edit?usp=sharing%20">here</a>. Send me voice memos about the things YOU'RE trying at podcasts@defector.com, or you can message me or tag me on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/alexlaughs/%20">@alexlaughs</a>. Try Hard is hosted and produced by Alex Sujong Laughlin. Editorial and production support from Audrey Mardavich, Tom Ley, and Jae Towle Vieira. Justin Ellis is Defector's projects editor. Mixing by Samantha Gattsek. Our show art is by Lille Allen and our theme song is "Photo Booth" by Avery Friedman. Try Hard is a proud member of Radiotopia.

Cartoonist Mattie Lubchansky hates exercising in front of people, so in this first episode of Try Hard, she's trying out a real life yoga class full of real life strangers! By the way, you should buy Mattie's new book, Simplicity! Episode transcript here. Send me voice memos about the things YOU'RE trying at podcasts@defector.com, or you can message me or tag me on Instagram @alexlaughs. Try Hard is hosted and produced by Alex Sujong Laughlin. Editorial and production support from Audrey Mardavich, Tom Ley, and Jae Towle Vieira. Justin Ellis is Defector's projects editor. Mixing by Samantha Gattsek. Our show art is by Lille Allen and our theme song is "Photo Booth" by Avery Friedman. Try Hard is a proud member of Radiotopia.

Cartoonist Mattie Lubchansky hates exercising in front of people, so in this first episode of Try Hard, she's trying out a real life yoga class full of real life strangers! By the way, you should buy Mattie's new book, <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/simplicity-mattie-lubchansky/21997655?aid=79623" rel="noopener noreferrer">Simplicity</a>!&nbsp;Episode transcript <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MIMo6n6hBCKfq1uSTxuCjerObU9kVqw0Ed1-GSw77Y8/edit?usp=sharing%20" rel="noopener noreferrer">here</a>.&nbsp;Send me voice memos about the things YOU'RE trying at podcasts@defector.com, or you can message me or tag me on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/alexlaughs/%20" rel="noopener noreferrer">@alexlaughs</a>.&nbsp;Try Hard is hosted and produced by Alex Sujong Laughlin. Editorial and production support from Audrey Mardavich, Tom Ley, and Jae Towle Vieira. Justin Ellis is Defector's projects editor. Mixing by Samantha Gattsek. Our show art is by Lille Allen and our theme song is "Photo Booth" by Avery Friedman.&nbsp;Try Hard is a proud member of Radiotopia.

Mattie Lubchansky Takes a Yoga Class

If there’s no shame in trying, why is it so hard?  On Try Hard, Alex Sujong Laughlin helps people try the thing they've always wanted to do—from cartwheels to karaoke.  First episode publishes July 28!  Thank you to Charley Locke, Lilli Grace Barden, Yuli, and Juliana de Groot for lending your voices.

If there’s no shame in trying, why is it so hard? On Try Hard, Alex Sujong Laughlin helps people try the thing they've always wanted to do—from cartwheels to karaoke. First episode publishes July 28! Thank you to Charley Locke, Lilli Grace Barden, Yuli, and Juliana de Groot for lending your voices.

If there’s no shame in trying, why is it so hard?&nbsp; On Try Hard, Alex Sujong Laughlin helps people try the thing they've always wanted to do—from cartwheels to karaoke.&nbsp; First episode publishes July 28!&nbsp; Thank you to Charley Locke, Lilli Grace Barden, Yuli, and Juliana de Groot for lending your voices.&nbsp;

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Alex Sujong Laughlin has conversations with people about the ways they're redefining themselves, from major life changes to picking up new hobbies. Be a try hard. We double dog dare you. Created by Alex Sujong Laughlin and Defector Media.

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Alex Sujong Laughlin has conversations with people about the ways they're redefining themselves, from major life changes to picking up new hobbies. Be a try hard. We double dog dare you. Created by Alex Sujong Laughlin and Defector Media.

Alex Sujong Laughlin has conversations with people about the ways they're redefining themselves, from major life changes to picking up new hobbies.&nbsp;Be a try hard. We double dog dare you.&nbsp;Created by Alex Sujong Laughlin and Defector Media. &nbsp;

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