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Exploring Identity, and Turning Toward Yourself in Affirming Ways
Jen and I touch on so much in this episode: challenges setting boundaries; structure vs. the need for novelty (ADHD vs. autism), attachment injuries and bids for connection; the challenges and gifts of hard conversations; what neuro-affirming therapy looks like; PDA and focusing on others to reduce demands; masking; what comes up when someone suspects they are autistic or are recently diagnosed.
CO-HOST
Jen Perry, MSEd, MA, LPC
HIGHLIGHTS
Summary
In this conversation, Jen and Patricia discuss various topics related to parenting, boundaries, and self-discovery. They explore the challenges of adjusting to new structures and parenting roles, as well as the importance of partnering with children and acknowledging limitations. They also discuss the significance of modeling imperfection and repairing emotional availability. The conversation delves into navigating personal preferences and resistance, expressing needs and bids for connection, and the importance of setting boundaries and embracing autonomy. They also touch on the process of recognizing and embracing an autistic identity, as well as the roller coaster of emotions that can come with this realization. Overall, the conversation highlights the importance of self-reflection, authenticity, and deepening intimacy in relationships.
Takeaways
· Adjusting to new structures and parenting roles can be challenging but can also provide opportunities for growth and learning.
· Modeling imperfection and repairing emotional availability can strengthen relationships and create a sense of safety and trust.
· Setting boundaries and embracing autonomy are essential for self-care and maintaining healthy relationships.
· Becoming your own heroine in your life and your story
· Assessing what you want in relationships, and seeing if the people who are disappointing you are people you would choose
· Communicating when it you're wanting a bid for connection
· Addressing our attachment wounds in relationship is really an act of service to the relationship
· The ongoing challenge between ADHD and the need for novelty and with autism wanting routine and structure
· Conflict and avoidance of conflict can be hard, and having difficult conversations can also be hard. How does it help the relationship?
· The importance of having autistic or neuro-affirming therapists and coaches since allistic practitioners can cause more trauma and harm
· If you're recently diagnosed autistic or suspect you are autistic, you may experience skill regression, difficulty doing things you previously did, and your identify may be shaken up (there's grief and anger there as well)
· Ways your PDA may be showing up and things you have learned to do to minimize having your nervous system activated
· You may have been socialized to be "other focused," which makes it hard to know what you are wanting and needing, and it can be a form of masking, and it may reduce PDA and RSD
Recognizing and embracing an autistic identity can bring validation and understanding, but it can also be accompanied by a roller coaster of emotions and a need for self-reflection.
Chapters (adjust time for the addition of the introduction)
00:00 Introduction and Checking In
01:18 Adjusting to New Structure and Parenting
03:03 Partnering with Children and Acknowledging Limitations
04:23 Modeling Imperfection and Repairing Emotional Availability
05:05 Exploring Personal Challenges and Seeking Support
06:41 Navigating Personal Preferences and Resistance
08:08 Expressing Needs and Bids for Connection
09:35 Navigating Difficult Conversations and Repairing Ruptures
10:51 Taking Risks and Embracing Discomfort
12:40 Honoring Wounds and Attending to Healing
14:51 Setting Boundaries and Embracing Autonomy
16:40 Navigating Conflict and Deepening Intimacy
19:03 Recognizing Autistic Identity and Processing Emotions
23:53 Reevaluating Relationships and Prioritizing Values
27:10 Embracing Authenticity and Self-Reflection
31:57 Navigating the Roller Coaster of Autistic Identity
32:44 Conclusion
PODCAST HOST
Patricia was a Licensed Clinical Social Worker for over 17 years, but she is now exclusively providing coaching. She knows what it's like to feel like an outcast, misfit, and truthteller. Learning about the trait of being a Highly Sensitive Person (HSP), then learning she is AuDHD with a PDA profile and RSD, helped Patricia rewrite her history with a deeper understanding, appreciation, and a sense of self-compassion. She created the podcast Unapologetically Sensitive to help other neurodivergent folks know that they aren't alone, and that having a brain that is wired differently comes with amazing gifts, and some challenges. Patricia works online globally working individually with people, and she teaches Online Courses for neurodivergent folks that focus on understanding what it means to be a sensitive neurodivergent. Topics covered include: self-care, self-compassion, boundaries, perfectionism, mindfulness, communication, and creating a lifestyle that honors you
CO-HOST BIO
Jen Perry, MSEd, MA, LPC has been a psychotherapist for 20 years. She specializes in helping Highly Sensitive People thrive in love, work, and parenting Highly Sensitive Children. Jen is passionate about using mindfulness and compassion-based approaches to ameliorate human suffering.
LINKS
Jen's Links
Email: [email protected]
Jen's website: https://heartfulnessconsulting.com/
Patricia's Links
HSP Online Course--https://unapologeticallysensitive.com/hsp-online-groups/
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Real Talk on Health Challenges: Speaking FOR Your Parts vs. Speaking FROM Your Parts
Jen and I talk about the difference between complaining, speaking honestly about what's going on, and the other person's capacity to sit with things that they may feel they need to fix or change. Many of you have been told that you complain too much or that you're too negative. Neurodivergent brains tend to report the truth, and we are very discerning about what we like and what we don't like. This can be perceived as negativity, complaining or being depressing to be around. What if it really wasn't about you?
CO-HOST
Jen Perry, MSEd, MA, LPC
HIGHLIGHTS
Summary
In this conversation, Patricia and Jen discuss the difference between complaining and sharing honestly about personal struggles. They explore the challenges of navigating conversations around difficult topics and the importance of holding space for each other's experiences. They also delve into the healing process and the acceptance of trauma, emphasizing the need to honor and validate our own emotions. The conversation highlights the significance of checking intentions and capacity in communication, as well as the transformative power of being in relationship with our experiences. In this conversation, Jen and Patricia discuss the importance of speaking from a part versus speaking for a part. They explore the concept of unprocessed trauma and how it can affect communication. They also discuss the significance of acknowledging and balancing pain, as well as differentiating between acting from a part and speaking for a part. The conversation highlights the role of chaperoning the part and the importance of validating and witnessing pain. Finally, they find humor in the uncertainty of their podcast episodes.
Takeaways
Differentiate between complaining and sharing honestly about personal struggles.
Hold space for each other's experiences and validate emotions.
Accept and heal from trauma by being in relationship with our experiences.
Check intentions and capacity in communication to ensure effective and compassionate conversations. It is important to speak from a part rather than speaking for a part.
Unprocessed trauma can impact communication and lead to a desire for others to intuitively understand and fix our needs.
Acknowledging and balancing pain can help in managing distressing emotions.
Differentiating between acting from a part and speaking for a part can provide clarity in communication.
Chaperoning the part involves bringing in other perspectives and validating the pain experienced.
Validating and witnessing pain is crucial in processing unprocessed trauma.
Finding humor in uncertainty can help alleviate pressure and create a lighter atmosphere.
Chapters (adjust for addition of introduction)
00:00 Introduction and Personal Updates
02:34 Differentiating Between Complaining and Sharing
08:15 Healing and Accepting Trauma
13:25 The Healing Process and Holding Space
16:53 The Energy of Holding Space and Acceptance
23:39 Checking Intentions and Capacity in Communication
27:19 Navigating Difficult Conversations and Boundaries
32:24 Processing Trauma and Holding Space for Emotions
36:29 The Complexity of Communication and Trauma Responses
38:55 Being in Relationship with Our Experiences and Healing
39:52 Speaking from a Part vs. Speaking for a Part
40:38 Identifying Unprocessed Trauma
41:33 Acknowledging and Balancing Pain
42:14 Differentiating Acting from Speaking
42:53 Chaperoning the Part
43:22 Validating and Witnessing Pain
43:42 Finding Humor in Uncertainty
PODCAST HOST
Patricia was a Licensed Clinical Social Worker for over 17 years, but she is now exclusively providing coaching. She knows what it's like to feel like an outcast, misfit, and truthteller. Learning about the trait of being a Highly Sensitive Person (HSP), then learning she is AuDHD with a PDA profile and RSD, helped Patricia rewrite her history with a deeper understanding, appreciation, and a sense of self-compassion. She created the podcast Unapologetically Sensitive to help other neurodivergent folks know that they aren't alone, and that having a brain that is wired differently comes with amazing gifts, and some challenges. Patricia works online globally working individually with people, and she teaches Online Courses for neurodivergent folks that focus on understanding what it means to be a sensitive neurodivergent. Topics covered include: self-care, self-compassion, boundaries, perfectionism, mindfulness, communication, and creating a lifestyle that honors you
CO-HOST BIO
Jen Perry, MSEd, MA, LPC has been a psychotherapist for 20 years. She specializes in helping Highly Sensitive People thrive in love, work, and parenting Highly Sensitive Children. Jen is passionate about using mindfulness and compassion-based approaches to ameliorate human suffering.
LINKS
Jen's Links
Email: [email protected]
Jen's website: https://heartfulnessconsulting.com/
Patricia's Links
HSP Online Course--https://unapologeticallysensitive.com/hsp-online-groups/
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Music-- Gravel Dance by Andy Robinson www.andyrobinson.com
Getting from Here to There When You've Lost Your Routine
How do you get back in a groove after you've gotten out of it? We often assume we can jump back in, but sometimes it's harder than that. I also talk about getting consent in relationships before giving feedback and advice. Attuning to the other person is the best gift you can give someone. This means dropping your agenda. I also talk about how to communicate your sensory needs when others are unaware. It can be exhausting it can be for us when we have to compensate and when we are overstimulated.
HIGHLIGHTS
20 takeaways from this episode:
1. Strategies for managing the transition from the holiday season to regular routines.
2. Tips for handling difficult conversations with loved ones.
3. The importance of active listening in communication.
4. How to show empathy and validate others' feelings.
5. The benefits of setting clear boundaries in conversations.
6. The use of "I" statements to express thoughts and feelings.
7. The importance of seeking compromise in challenging discussions.
8. The value of taking breaks during emotionally charged conversations.
9. The benefits of seeking professional help from a therapist or coach.
10. Understanding attachment wounds and their impact on relationships.
11. The concept of PDA (pathological demand avoidance or Pervasive/Persistent Drive for Autonomy) and its effects on communication.
12. The importance of attunement in relationships.
13. The role of consent in sharing with someone who is struggling.
14. The value of self-compassion and acceptance of all emotions.
15. Strategies for managing sensitivity and emotional reactions.
16. The benefits of eliminating inflammatory foods from one's diet.
17. The challenges of navigating family dynamics during the holiday season.
18. The importance of managing expectations in relationships.
19. The value of self-reflection and self-awareness in communication.
20. The benefits of practicing mindfulness and self-care in daily life.
Additional Takeaways
Seek consent and ask for permission before sharing personal reactions or opinions in conversations.
Be authentic and true to yourself in personal relationships, while also considering the needs and perspectives of others.
Strive for a balance between routine and self-care, and be patient with yourself when facing setbacks.
Set realistic expectations and practice self-compassion when working towards personal goals.
Create an affirming household that acknowledges and accommodates the different needs of family members.
Recognize and respect personal endurance and self-regulation in social situations.
Embrace self-expression and navigate social interactions in a way that aligns with your neurodivergent traits.
Take ownership of your own fulfillment and celebrate holidays in a way that aligns with your desires and needs.
Seek support and embrace your sensitivity as a valuable aspect of your identity.
Chapters (please adjust for the addition of the introdruction:
00:00 Introduction and Setting the Stage
01:28 Giving Consent in Relationships
04:44 Being Authentic and Reacting in Personal Relationships
07:27 Struggling with Routine and Self-Care
10:05 Setting Expectations and Practicing Self-Compassion
11:32 Navigating Family Dynamics and Accommodating Needs
16:31 Managing Personal Endurance and Self-Regulation
20:53 Navigating Social Situations and Self-Expression
22:17 Celebrating Holidays and Self-Fulfillment
25:36 Seeking Support and Embracing Sensitivity
PODCAST HOST
Patricia was a Licensed Clinical Social Worker for over 17 years, but she is now exclusively providing coaching. She knows what it's like to feel like an outcast, misfit, and truthteller. Learning about the trait of being a Highly Sensitive Person (HSP), then learning she is AuDHD with a PDA profile and RSD, helped Patricia rewrite her history with a deeper understanding, appreciation, and a sense of self-compassion. She created the podcast Unapologetically Sensitive to help other neurodivergent folks know that they aren't alone, and that having a brain that is wired differently comes with amazing gifts, and some challenges. Patricia works online globally working individually with people, and she teaches Online Courses for neurodivergent folks that focus on understanding what it means to be a sensitive neurodivergent. Topics covered include: self-care, self-compassion, boundaries, perfectionism, mindfulness, communication, and creating a lifestyle that honors you
LINKS
HSP Online Course--https://unapologeticallysensitive.com/hsp-online-groups/
Online HSP Course Materials (no group included) https://patriciayounglcsw.com/product-category/hsp-classes/
Receive the top 10 most downloaded episodes of the podcast-- https://www.subscribepage.com/e6z6e6
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Music-- Gravel Dance by Andy Robinson www.andyrobinson.com
Attachment Injuries, Internal Family Systems (IFS) and Self-Care
Jen and I discuss attachment wounds and using an Internal Family Systems (IFS) framework. We talk about the difference of speaking for our parts vs. speaking from our parts. We talk about overperformance, the pressure to show up and masking, and the importance of feeling seen and heard in relationships. We talk about unpacking an autism diagnosis and reviewing life through the lens of autism. We also emphasize embracing imperfection and practicing self-care and self-compassion.
CO-HOST
Jen Perry, MSEd, MA, LPC
HIGHLIGHTS
Summary
In this conversation, Patricia and Jen discuss their current states and challenges, including the impact of attachment injuries and autism. They explore the importance of reframing and unpacking an autism diagnoses. They also discuss the significance of embracing imperfection and practicing self-compassion. The conversation delves into the difference between speaking for parts and speaking from parts, as well as the challenges of feeling seen and heard in relationships. They also touch on the role of technology in communication and the connection between self-worth and expressing love. In this conversation, Jen and Patricia discuss the pressure to show up and overperform, particularly in relation to masking and societal expectations. They explore the idea of letting go of perfection in expressing self-worth and the impact it has on relationships. They also delve into managing expectations and self-pressure, recognizing that others often have different expectations than we do for ourselves. Finally, they touch on the importance of embracing different parts of ourselves and being in relationship with them.
Takeaways
The pressure to show up and overperform can be overwhelming, especially for individuals who feel the need to mask their true selves.
Letting go of the idea of perfection in expressing self-worth can lead to greater ease and authenticity in relationships.
Managing expectations and self-pressure is crucial for maintaining mental well-being, as others often have different expectations than we do for ourselves.
Embracing different parts of ourselves and being in relationship with them allows for a more integrated and balanced sense of self.
Summary
· Navigating life with autism and managing attachment injuries.
· The impact of autism on daily routines and family dynamics.
· Understanding the challenges of having food, routines, and independence,
· Embracing imperfection and letting go of perfectionism,
· Recognizing the need for gentleness and self-compassion, especially with the inner critic.
· Exploring the concept of "autistic burnout" and its impact on daily life and mental health.
· Reflecting on the journey of self-discovery and acceptance after receiving an autism diagnosis.
· Embracing the process of reframing past experiences through the lens of autism.
· Navigating the complexities of showing love and care.
· Understanding the diverse ways individuals express love and support within the neurodivergent community.
· Addressing the challenges of communication and maintaining connections
· Exploring the impact of ADHD and neurodivergence on memory, attention, and maintaining social patterns.
· Recognizing the importance of open communication and managing expectations in relationships.
· Embracing vulnerability and acknowledging the impact of attachment wounds in personal interactions.
· Insights into the journey of self-discovery, self-care, and personal growth as a neurodivergent person
Chapters (will need to be adjusted with the addition of the introduction)
00:00 Introduction and Current State
01:07 Exploring Attachment Injuries and Autism
04:04 Accepting the Autism Diagnosis
09:26 Leaning into Challenges and Reframing
12:26 Navigating Self-Criticism and Self-Judgment
15:19 Embracing Imperfection and Self-Compassion
19:01 Speaking for Parts vs. Speaking from Parts
23:28 Being Fully Present in Life
28:02 Feeling Seen and Heard in Relationships
30:03 Navigating Technology and Communication
34:26 Self-Worth and Expressing Love
36:15 Hustling for Self-Worth and Activation
37:02 The Pressure to Show Up and Overperform
38:06 Letting Go of Perfection in Expressing Self-Worth
39:11 Managing Expectations and Self-Pressure
39:27 Embracing Different Parts of Ourselves
PODCAST HOST
Patricia was a Licensed Clinical Social Worker for over 17 years, but she is now exclusively providing coaching. She knows what it's like to feel like an outcast, misfit, and truthteller. Learning about the trait of being a Highly Sensitive Person (HSP), then learning she is AuDHD with a PDA profile and RSD, helped Patricia rewrite her history with a deeper understanding, appreciation, and a sense of self-compassion. She created the podcast Unapologetically Sensitive to help other neurodivergent folks know that they aren't alone, and that having a brain that is wired differently comes with amazing gifts, and some challenges. Patricia works online globally working individually with people, and she teaches Online Courses for neurodivergent folks that focus on understanding what it means to be a sensitive neurodivergent. Topics covered include: self-care, self-compassion, boundaries, perfectionism, mindfulness, communication, and creating a lifestyle that honors you
CO-HOST BIO
Jen Perry, MSEd, MA, LPC has been a psychotherapist for 20 years. She specializes in helping Highly Sensitive People thrive in love, work, and parenting Highly Sensitive Children. Jen is passionate about using mindfulness and compassion-based approaches to ameliorate human suffering.
LINKS
Jen's Links
Email: [email protected]
Jen's website: https://heartfulnessconsulting.com/
Patricia's Links
HSP Online Course--https://unapologeticallysensitive.com/hsp-online-groups/
Receive the top 10 most downloaded episodes of the podcast-- https://www.subscribepage.com/e6z6e6
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Music-- Gravel Dance by Andy Robinson www.andyrobinson.com
The Power of Showing Up: Embracing Imperfection and Struggles with PDA and RSD
Jen and I discuss our struggles with showing up and doing life even when it's hard. We model grace and vulnerability, reminding you that it's okay to not have it all together. The conversation touches on topics such as PDA, rejection-sensitive dysphoria RSD, and the pressure of gift-giving. We also discuss the importance of communication and staying connected, even when feeling tired or overwhelmed. This episode is helpful for anyone who may be struggling.
CO-HOST
Jen Perry, MSEd, MA, LPC
HIGHLIGHTS
Summary
In this conversation, Patricia and Jen discuss their personal struggles with health issues, specifically vertigo and its impact on their daily lives. They explore the challenges of navigating uncertainty, the importance of showing up authentically even when it's hard, and the need for self-compassion and self-care. They also delve into topics such as perception, autonomy, and the role of humor in medical settings. The conversation highlights the significance of connection, vulnerability, and understanding in supporting one another during difficult times. Ultimately, they emphasize the importance of recognizing and honoring one's own needs and limitations. In this conversation, Jen and Patricia discuss the importance of effective communication and provide practical tips for improving communication skills. They explore the role of active listening, empathy, non-verbal communication, cultural sensitivity, and overcoming communication barriers. The conversation emphasizes the significance of clear and respectful communication in personal and professional relationships.
· We discuss the challenges of being perceived and the pressure to conform to societal expectations.
· The conversation touches on topics such as autism, PDA, and rejection-sensitive dysphoria (RSD).
· We discuss the importance of communication and staying connected, even when feeling tired or overwhelmed.
· It's okay to not have it all together.
· We talk about the pressure of gift-giving and the anxiety it can cause for neurodivergent individuals.
· We discuss the concept of being in charge and the nervous system getting activated when feeling a loss of autonomy (PDA—Pathological Demand Avoidance or Pervasive/Persistent Drive for Autonomy).
· We friends share our experiences with PDA and how it affects our daily lives.
· We talk about the importance of self-care and setting boundaries to avoid burnout.
· We discuss the challenges of being vulnerable and the fear of rejection that comes with it.
· The conversation touches on the importance of self-acceptance and embracing one's unique traits.
· We discuss the impact of childhood experiences on our current struggles and coping mechanisms.
· We share our experiences with medical care and how we navigate uncomfortable situations.
· We talk about the importance of humor and how it can humanize otherwise sterile environments.
· The conversation ends with a reminder to be kind to oneself and to embrace imperfection as a part of the human experience.
Takeaways
Navigating health issues can be challenging and uncertain, but it's important to show up authentically and seek support.
Self-compassion and self-care are crucial during difficult times, even if it means letting go of expectations and prioritizing rest.
Communication and understanding are key in maintaining healthy relationships and navigating challenges together.
Humor and vulnerability can provide comfort and connection in medical settings, helping to humanize the experience. Effective communication is crucial for building strong relationships and resolving conflicts.
Active listening and empathy are essential skills for effective communication.
Non-verbal communication, such as body language and facial expressions, can convey important messages.
Cultural sensitivity is important for understanding and respecting diverse communication styles.
Identifying and overcoming communication barriers can improve the quality of communication.
Chapters (these times need to be adjusted to the addition of the introduction)
00:00 Introduction and Setting the Tone
01:10 Modeling How to Show Up and Do Life Even When It's Hard
02:06 Supporting Each Other and Being Present
02:31 Understanding and Sharing Personal Health Struggles
06:10 The Uncertainty and Challenges of Dealing with Vertigo
09:01 The Impact of Dizziness on Daily Life and Activities
10:15 Navigating the Emotional and Mental Toll of Health Issues
12:30 The Importance of Connection and Honesty in Difficult Times
13:40 Exploring Personal Awareness and Self-Reflection
21:11 The Influence of Perception and Autonomy on Self-Care
23:51 The Role of Humor and Vulnerability in Medical Settings
26:14 Navigating Overwhelm and Setting Boundaries During the Holidays
29:03 Recognizing Soul Fatigue and the Need for Rest
31:37 Reevaluating Expectations and Prioritizing Self-Care
35:20 Communicating Needs and Understanding Each Other
37:30 Reflection and Gratitude
02:30 The Importance of Effective Communication
08:15 Active Listening and Empathy
15:45 Non-Verbal Communication
22:10 Cultural Sensitivity and Communication
29:20 Overcoming Communication Barriers
35:10 Conclusion
PODCAST HOST
Patricia was a Licensed Clinical Social Worker, but is now exclusively providing coaching. She knows what it's like to feel like an outcast, misfit, and truthteller. Learning about the trait of being a Highly Sensitive Person (HSP), then learning she is AuDHD with a PDA profile helped Patricia rewrite her history with a deeper understanding, appreciation, and a sense of self-compassion. She created the podcast Unapologetically Sensitive to help other neurodivergent folks know that they aren't alone, and that having a brain that is wired differently comes with amazing gifts, and some challenges. Patricia works online globally working individually with people, and she teaches Online Courses for HSPs that focus on understanding what it means to be an HSP, self-care, self-compassion, boundaries, perfectionism, mindfulness, communication, and creating a lifestyle that honors you
CO-HOST BIO
Jen Perry, MSEd, MA, LPC has been a psychotherapist for 20 years. She specializes in helping Highly Sensitive People thrive in love, work, and parenting Highly Sensitive Children. Jen is passionate about using mindfulness and compassion-based approaches to ameliorate human suffering.
LINKS
Jen's Links
Email: [email protected]
Jen's website: https://heartfulnessconsulting.com/
Patricia's Links
HSP Online Course--https://unapologeticallysensitive.com/hsp-online-groups/
Receive the top 10 most downloaded episodes of the podcast-- https://www.subscribepage.com/e6z6e6
Sign up for the Newsletter-- https://www.subscribepage.com/y0l7d4
To write a review in itunes:
Website--www.unapologeticallysensitive.com
Facebook-- https://www.facebook.com/Unapologetically-Sensitive-2296688923985657/
Closed/Private Facebook group Unapologetically Sensitive-- https://www.facebook.com/groups/2099705880047619/
Instagram-- https://www.instagram.com/unapologeticallysensitive/
Youtube-- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOE6fodj7RBdO3Iw0NrAllg/videos?view_as=subscriber
Tik Tok--https://www.tiktok.com/@unapologeticallysensitiv
e-mail-- [email protected]
Show hashtag--#unapologeticallysensitive
Music-- Gravel Dance by Andy Robinson www.andyrobinson.com
Navigating Autism and PDA (Pathological Demand Avoidance or Pervasive Drive for Autonomy)
I discuss being diagnosed Autistic with a PDA (pathological demand avoidance) profile. I express frustration with the DSM criteria for ADHD and autism, as I don't see myself in the criteria. I highlight the common misdiagnosis of PDA as oppositional defiant disorder in children, emphasizing the need for a deeper understanding of neurodivergent experiences. I advocate a shift from viewing differences as deficits, and the importance of recognizing the unique perspectives of neurodivergent individuals.
HIGHLIGHTS
Summary
In this episode, Patricia shares her personal reflections on being diagnosed autistic and the challenges she faces with Pathological Demand Avoidance, (PDA). Patricia prefers Pervasive/Persistent Drive for Autonomy instead. She discusses the differences between autism and HSP (Highly Sensitive Person) and emphasizes the importance of understanding the lived experience of autism. Patricia also explores how PDA affects parenting and the need for low-demand environments. She reflects on her struggles with holiday traditions and the importance of self-acceptance and embracing stimming. Additionally, Patricia discusses the impact of seasonal changes and offers insights into managing PDA in daily life. She concludes with a book she enjoyed reading that has coded autistic characters in it.
Some of the challenges and awarenesses about being autistic and having a PDA profile:
· Patricia shares her frustration with the DSM criteria for ADHD and autism, as she does not see herself in the criteria. It was written for white boys who externalize their symptoms. Many late-diagnosed, high-masking folks tend to internalize their presentation, and they go undiagnosed and don't see themselves in the criteria, which needs to be updated.
· Patricia emphasizes the importance of understanding the lived experience of neurodivergent individuals and the need to look at differences rather than deficits.
· She expresses her passion for wanting researchers and experts in the field of ADHD, autism, and HSP to work collaboratively to find commonalities.
· Patricia talks about the challenges of being formally diagnosed with autism and how it has led to a year of "Ahas."
· She shares insights into how PDA shows up in her life, including anticipating things that could go wrong and giving people permission to not respond.
Takeaways
Understanding the lived experience of autism is crucial for creating a supportive environment.
Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) also known as Pervasive/Persistent Drive for Autonomy, can be misdiagnosed as oppositional defiant disorder and is characterized by nervous system dysregulation.
Parents with PDA may face challenges in parenting neurodivergent children and may benefit from creating low-demand environments.
Embracing self-acceptance and allowing oneself to stim can lead to a greater sense of joy and freedom.
Seasonal changes can impact mood and energy levels, and it's important to listen to one's body and practice self-care.
Anticipating demands and setting boundaries can help manage PDA and reduce stress.
The book 'Lessons in Chemistry' features characters who are coded as autistic and explores themes of feminism and neurodiversity.
Chapters (please adjust times with the addition of the introduction)
00:00 Introduction and Personal Reflections
01:58 Understanding PDA and Autism
06:49 Challenges of Parenting with PDA
08:18 Navigating Holiday Traditions
16:08 Embracing Stimming and Self-Acceptance
17:32 Coping with Winter and Seasonal Changes
24:05 Managing PDA in Daily Life
27:31 Anticipating and Resisting Demands
28:52 Book Recommendation: Lessons in Chemistry
30:17 Closing Remarks and Invitation
PODCAST HOST
Patricia was a Licensed Clinical Social Worker, but is now exclusively providing coaching. She knows what it's like to feel like an outcast, misfit, and truthteller. Learning about the trait of being a Highly Sensitive Person (HSP), then learning she is AuDHD (autistic and ADHD), with a PDA profile, helped Patricia rewrite her history with a deeper understanding, appreciation, and a sense of self-compassion. She created the podcast Unapologetically Sensitive to help other neurodivergent folks know that they aren't alone, and that having a brain that is wired differently comes with amazing gifts, and some challenges. Patricia works online globally working individually with people, and she teaches Online Courses for HSPs that focus on understanding what it means to be an HSP, self-care, self-compassion, boundaries, perfectionism, mindfulness, communication, and creating a lifestyle that honors you
LINKS
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Building Trust in Neurodivergent Settings: Overcoming Group Apprehension
Ellie and Patricia highlight the importance of creating inclusive spaces that foster trust, comfort, and collaboration for neurodivergent folks. They discuss the benefits of tailoring curriculum to individual and group needs. This episode also touches on the depth and organic nature of group conversations, and the role of personalized attention within a structured framework. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the importance of creating supportive and inclusive environments for neurodivergent individuals.
GUEST
Ellie
HIGHLIGHTS
Summary
This conversation explores the experiences and dynamics of the Online HSP Course and how it fits with being autistic or identifying as neurodivergent. The episode covers topics such as trust and comfort in the group, creating a safe and supportive environment, addressing social issues, embracing whole identities, gaining different perspectives, and forming connections and friendships. The conversation highlights the importance of personalized attention, optional participation, and creating a neurodivergent-friendly space. It also emphasizes the value of feeling seen, heard, and honored in the group. The participants discuss the unexpected benefits and the lasting connections that were formed through the course.
Takeaways
Creating a safe and supportive environment is crucial for a group focused on highly sensitive people and neurodivergent individuals.
Embracing whole identities and recognizing marginalized parts of ourselves can lead to a sense of belonging and understanding in the group.
Optional participation and personalized attention allow individuals to engage in a way that feels comfortable and authentic to them.
Forming connections and friendships within the group can provide validation, support, and a sense of community.
The dynamics of a smaller group can lead to deeper conversations and a stronger sense of cohesion.
Some topics covered in this episode:
1. Neurodivergence and its representation in the course
2. Personal perspectives and interactions with course material
3. Overcoming apprehensions about joining a group
4. The dynamics of group participation and introversion
5. Creating a supportive and inclusive group environment
6. Addressing potential group members' concerns
7. Establishing core values and expectations for group participation
8. Discussions on social issues and human rights
9. Tailoring the curriculum to individual and group needs
10. Group size and its impact on interactions
11. Depth and organic nature of group conversations
12. Personalized attention within a structured framework
13. Flexibility and guidance in group discussions
14. Trust and comfort in participating in the course
15. Impact of discussions on autism and neurodivergence within the HSP group
Chapters (please add time to account for introduction
00:00 Introduction and Spontaneous Recording
00:46 Initial Thoughts about the Group
01:45 Trust and Comfort in the Group
02:09 Discussion about Autism in the Group
03:08 Creating a Safe and Supportive Environment
04:27 Addressing Social Issues in the Group
05:29 Intersectionality and Embracing Whole Identities
06:15 Recognizing Marginalized Parts of Ourselves
07:02 Expectations and Insight in the Group
08:17 Gaining Different Perspectives in the Group
09:24 Learning and Sharing Experiences in the Group
10:40 Creating a Cohesive Group
11:19 Building Trust and Connection in the Group
12:02 Different Perspectives on Group Cohesion
13:03 Feeling Safe and Comfortable in the Group
14:03 Optional Participation and Individual Needs
15:47 Forming Connections and Friendships in the Group
17:40 Validation and Understanding in the Group
19:37 Feeling Seen, Heard, and Honored in the Group
20:23 Personalized Attention and Tailored Discussions
23:14 Flexibility and Personalized Approach in the Group
24:46 Creating a Safe and Neurodivergent-Friendly Space
26:12 Feeling Safe and Understood in the Group
28:18 Addressing the Lack of Mention of Neurodivergence in the Course
30:17 Recommendations for Joining the Course
32:57 Continuing Connections and Friendships after the Course
36:31 Smaller Group Dynamics and Cohesion
39:25 Acknowledging Different Group Experiences
40:07 Gratitude and Positive Feedback
GUEST BIO
Ellie is a corporate professional in a senior manager position. Through experiencing significant burnout, she was identified as autistic earlier this year. Her formal diagnosis followed. Leading up to her diagnosis and through today, she has been searching for information to help her understand her autism and for strategies for managing the seemingly endless effort it takes to be her in a world that expects her not to be autistic.
LINKS
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Neurodivergent Insights: Navigating ADHD, Autism, PDA, and Communication
Jen and I discuss the challenges of living with ADHD, Autism and PDA, including communication difficulties and perception of reality. We talk about how these show up for us differently, and how we navigate some of the challenges. I also share about disclosing to my MD about being autistic, and how that was received. We also talk about the difficulty of the holidays for some, and some end of year reflections that may (or may not be) helpful.
CO-HOST
Jen Perry, MSEd, MA, LPC
HIGHLIGHTS
Summary
This conversation explores the challenges and dynamics of relationships when one or both individuals have Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA), also known as Pervasive/Persisten Drive for Autonomy, a profile of autism. The speakers discuss how PDA shows up in their lives and the importance of understanding and managing individual differences. They emphasize the need for generosity, repair, and open communication in relationships. The conversation also touches on the impact of sensory issues, the role of medication in managing ADHD and autism symptoms, and the significance of end-of-year reflections and holiday traditions. Overall, the speakers highlight the importance of embracing and honoring different experiences and finding gentleness in navigating relationships and the holiday season. In this conversation, Patricia and Jen discuss the importance of effective communication and provide practical tips for improving communication skills. They cover topics such as active listening, empathy, non-verbal communication, building trust and rapport, and conflict resolution. The conversation emphasizes the significance of clear and open communication in personal and professional relationships.
Takeaways
Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA), also called Pervasive/Persistent Drive for Autonomy, can present challenges in relationships, particularly in terms of communication and managing expectations.
Generosity, repair, and open communication are essential in maintaining healthy relationships when one or both individuals have a PDA profile.
Understanding and embracing individual differences, such as sensory issues and different perspectives, can foster empathy and connection in relationships.
Managing ADHD and autism symptoms may involve medication, but it is important to consider individual needs and preferences.
Effective communication is crucial for building and maintaining relationships.
Active listening and empathy are key components of effective communication.
Non-verbal communication, such as body language and tone of voice, can greatly impact the message being conveyed.
Building trust and rapport is essential for effective communication.
Conflict resolution skills are important for resolving disagreements and maintaining healthy relationships.
Finally, end-of-year reflections and holiday traditions can be meaningful to assess growth and change during the year. Some ideas for these reflections are given, but it is essential to prioritize self-care and find what works best for each individual.
Topics covered in order:
Introduction and PDA in Relationships
Managing PDA in Relationships
Understanding Different Perspectives
Generosity and Repair in Relationships
Sensory Issues and Individual Differences
Communication and Understanding in Relationships
Shared Realities and Overlapping Perspectives
Embracing Quirks and Repairing Relationships
ADHD Medication and Neurodivergent Perspectives
Managing ADHD and Autism Symptoms
Reflections on the End of the Year
Finding What Works for You
Disclosing Autism to Healthcare Practitioners
Navigating Holiday Cards and Expectations
Taking Time for End-of-Year Reflection
Honoring Different Experiences during the Holidays
Unpacking Expectations and Finding Gentleness
The Importance of Effective Communication
Active Listening and Empathy
Non-Verbal Communication
Building Trust and Rapport
Conflict Resolution
Conclusion
PODCAST HOST
Patricia was a Licensed Clinical Social Worker, but is now exclusively providing coaching. She knows what it's like to feel like an outcast, misfit, and truthteller. Learning about the trait of being a Highly Sensitive Person (HSP), then learning she is AuDHD with a PDA profile helped Patricia rewrite her history with a deeper understanding, appreciation, and a sense of self-compassion. She created the podcast Unapologetically Sensitive to help other neurodivergent folks know that they aren't alone, and that having a brain that is wired differently comes with amazing gifts, and some challenges. Patricia works online globally working individually with people, and she teaches Online Courses for HSPs that focus on understanding what it means to be an HSP, self-care, self-compassion, boundaries, perfectionism, mindfulness, communication, and creating a lifestyle that honors you
CO-HOST BIO
Jen Perry, MSEd, MA, LPC has been a psychotherapist for 20 years. She specializes in helping Highly Sensitive People thrive in love, work, and parenting Highly Sensitive Children. Jen is passionate about using mindfulness and compassion-based approaches to ameliorate human suffering.
LINKS
Jen's Links
Email: [email protected]
Jen's website: https://heartfulnessconsulting.com/
Patricia's Links
HSP Online Course--https://unapologeticallysensitive.com/hsp-online-groups/
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Redefining Success for the Neurodivergent
Jen and I discuss the concept of success and how it is often measured by neurotypical norms. We challenge these measures, and explore alternative ways to define and measure success for the neurodivergent. We emphasize the importance of authenticity, having hard conversations, and embracing imperfection. We also discuss the value of uncertainty and not knowing, and how it can lead to creativity and growth. We invite you to redefine success on your own terms and find joy and fulfillment in your own unique journeys. it.
CO-HOST
Jen Perry, MSEd, MA, LPC
HIGHLIGHTS
The conversation explores the concept of uncertainty and its relationship with creativity. It emphasizes the idea that uncertainty can be a space for endless possibilities and encourages embracing the uncomfortable and the unknown.
Takeaways
· Success can be measured in ways that go beyond traditional measures, such as productivity and achievements.
· Authenticity and the ability to have hard conversations are important aspects of success.
· Embracing imperfection and being okay with not knowing are key to personal growth and creativity.
· Success can be defined on an individual level, based on personal values and priorities. Uncertainty can be a creative space where anything can happen.
· Embracing uncertainty allows for exploration and new opportunities.
· Being comfortable with uncertainty can lead to personal growth and development.
Chapters
These will need to be slightly adjusted since the introduction is not calculated into this
00:00 Introduction and Thanksgiving Dilemma
01:44 Defining Success and Productivity
02:57 Measuring Success by Making Others Feel Safe
03:52 Challenging Traditional Measures of Success
06:10 Authenticity and Success
07:32 Having Hard Conversations
08:15 Process Over Content
09:57 Accepting Imperfection and Procrastination
11:43 Navigating Difficult Conversations
13:54 Unconditional Love and Boundaries
15:41 Measuring Success in Relationships
17:42 Being Messy and Imperfect
19:32 Embracing Uncertainty and Not Knowing
37:11 Embracing Uncertainty
PODCAST HOST
Patricia was a Licensed Clinical Social Worker, but is now exclusively providing coaching. She knows what it's like to feel like an outcast, misfit, and truthteller. Learning about the trait of being a Highly Sensitive Person (HSP), then learning she is AuDHD with a PDA profile helped Patricia rewrite her history with a deeper understanding, appreciation, and a sense of self-compassion. She created the podcast Unapologetically Sensitive to help other neurodivergent folks know that they aren't alone, and that having a brain that is wired differently comes with amazing gifts, and some challenges. Patricia works online globally working individually with people, and she teaches Online Courses for HSPs that focus on understanding what it means to be an HSP, self-care, self-compassion, boundaries, perfectionism, mindfulness, communication, and creating a lifestyle that honors you
CO-HOST BIO
Jen Perry, MSEd, MA, LPC has been a psychotherapist for 20 years. She specializes in helping Highly Sensitive People thrive in love, work, and parenting Highly Sensitive Children. Jen is passionate about using mindfulness and compassion-based approaches to ameliorate human suffering.
LINKS
Jen's Links
Email: [email protected]
Jen's website: https://heartfulnessconsulting.com/
Patricia's Links
HSP Online Course--https://unapologeticallysensitive.com/hsp-online-groups/
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Navigating Relationship Bumps: Whose Stuff is This?
Once again, I had a bump in a relationship, and I got to see that I had a part in it. Our fear of rejection, abandonment, or someone getting angry with us, can prevent us from having difficult conversations. We minimize our feelings for fear of being too sensitive. When we do this work enough, eventually, remaining silent, no longer works. I got pretty dysregulated, but I was able to manage. It was more important to share my feelings than worrying about managing the other person's feelings.
HIGHLIGHTS
What you will learn from this podcast:
· Strategies for managing stress during the holiday season
· How to navigate relationship bumps and take responsibility for our own feelings
· The concept of "gremlins" and how they can hold us back in life
· How to identify and recognize when our gremlins are present
· The importance of practicing self-compassion and reframing negative thoughts
· How to manage fear of rejection and being "too much"
· The difference between our expectations and reality
· How to find balance and fulfillment in life
· The benefits of setting boundaries in relationships
· How to communicate effectively in relationships
· The importance of self-care and self-love
· How to deal with feelings of overwhelm and burnout
· The role of perfectionism in our lives and how to overcome it
· How to cultivate gratitude and noticing what is going right
· The power of vulnerability and authenticity in relationships
· How to set goals and work towards them
· The benefits of mindfulness and meditation
· How to develop a growth mindset
· The importance of self-reflection and self-awareness
· How to cultivate resilience and bounce back from setbacks
What are Gremlins and how to work with them:
"Gremlins" refer to the negative self-talk and limiting beliefs that can hold us back in life.
Acknowledging your gremlins can make them feel more manageable.
Identifying them and recognizing them when they are present can also help.
Practicing self-compassion and reframing negative thoughts into more neutral thoughts can help.
PODCAST HOST
Patricia was a Licensed Clinical Social Worker, but is now exclusively providing coaching. She knows what it's like to feel like an outcast, misfit, and truthteller. Learning about the trait of being a Highly Sensitive Person (HSP), then learning she is AuDHD (autistic and ADHD), with a PDA profile, helped Patricia rewrite her history with a deeper understanding, appreciation, and a sense of self-compassion. She created the podcast Unapologetically Sensitive to help other neurodivergent folks know that they aren't alone, and that having a brain that is wired differently comes with amazing gifts, and some challenges. Patricia works online globally working individually with people, and she teaches Online Courses for HSPs that focus on understanding what it means to be an HSP, self-care, self-compassion, boundaries, perfectionism, mindfulness, communication, and creating a lifestyle that honors you
LINKS
HSP Online Course--https://unapologeticallysensitive.com/hsp-online-groups/
Online HSP Course Materials (no group included) https://patriciayounglcsw.com/product-category/hsp-classes/
Receive the top 10 most downloaded episodes of the podcast-- https://www.subscribepage.com/e6z6e6
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Music-- Gravel Dance by Andy Robinson www.andyrobinson.com
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