In this enlightening episode of The Conversation, host Amanda de Cadenet is joined by Alexandra Pope and Sjanie Hugo Wurlitzer, authors of the groundbreaking book Wise Power: Discover the Liberating Power of Menopause to Awaken Authority, Purpose, and Belonging. Together, they explore the profound beneficial impact of the menstrual cycle on women's psychological, emotional, and spiritual well-being. Alexandra and Sjanie share their insights into the five phases of menopause, revealing how this transformative journey can be a powerful source of personal growth and empowerment. For those seeking further guidance, Red School offers online classes designed to deepen your understanding and support through this pivotal life stage. Welcome to the Conversation.

IN THIS EPISODE: 

• [00:43] Sjanie explains her history with Alexandra, the work they have done and the background of The Red School and the access women have to their studies online
• [4:16] Alexandra discusses the pain she had with her cycle and how that led her to recognize the benefits of menstruation
• [13:50] Alexandra and Sjanie discuss the first phase of menopause, which they call Betrayal and the mental breakdown that ensues
• [19:02] Alexandra discusses having support during menopause and being self-awareness, and she shares phase two, which is called Repair
• [22:18] Phase three is called Revelation
• [22:20] Phase four is Visioning
• [28:56] Phase five is Emergence, and they discuss the guidelines and tools that are shared in the book Wise Power
• [35:30] Discussion about HRT 

KEY TAKEAWAYS:

• The Red School offers online studies that last six or 12 weeks, including self-study programs. 
• Menstrual cycle awareness is when you stop, listen and respond to your body. 
• Understanding what is happening during menopause unleashes a power of liberation.

RESOURCES:

Red School - Website

Red School - Podcast

Menopause: The Great Awakener 

Wise Power Retreat

About This Podcast:

The Conversation with Amanda de Cadenet is a groundbreaking series of weekly interviews featuring candid conversations with impactful thought leaders. Host Amanda de Cadenet provides a platform for raw and honest discussions on a wide variety of topics, from porn to politics. Visit amandadecadenet.com to learn more and sign up for her newsletter. Follow Amanda on Instagram @amandadecadenet. Follow Amanda on Substack at amandadecadenet.substack.com.

BIOGRAPHY: 

Alexandra & Sjanie are the co-founders of Red School, and co-authors of  the iconic and hugely celebrated book from Hay House, Wild Power: discover the magic of the menstrual cycle and awaken the feminine path to power and their latest book Wise Power: Discover the liberating power of menopause to awaken authority, purpose and belonging (Hay House, Sept 2022).

They are pioneering the new emerging field of menstruality, creating a new lexicon and approach to women’s health and wellbeing; creativity and leadership; and spiritual life based on the power of our menstruality consciousness. 

Between them they bring over 60 years of experience. And today they teach worldwide on the psycho-spiritual process of maturation that unfolds from menarche to menopause and beyond. They’re committed to training the menstruality leaders of the future.