In this episode of the 'Show Up or Shut Up' podcast, host Wendy Solganik interviews artist Sally Hirst. They discuss Sally's upcoming role as an instructor in Fodder School 4, and explore her unique artistic journey. Sally shares insights into her life, from her chaotic childhood and self-education in London’s museums, to her late arrival at Cambridge University and her prolific career as an art teacher and artist. The conversation delves into her innovative techniques using modeling clay in printmaking, her teaching experiences, and the challenges of balancing art creation with marketing. Sally also reflects on her various living experiences, including renovating a 300-year-old house in Spain. The episode wraps up with an exciting preview of Sally's projects for Fodder School, highlighting her expertise in creating collage papers and artistic coasters.

00:00 Introduction to the Podcast

00:08 Meet Sally Hirst: A New Instructor at Fodder School

01:03 Wendy's Artistic Journey and Podcast Mission

02:27 Interview with Sally Hirst Begins

04:19 Sally's Early Life and Artistic Beginnings

07:42 Navigating School and Self-Education

11:07 Teenage Years and Early Adulthood

14:50 Balancing Art, Family, and Career

18:02 Teaching and Continuing Artistic Pursuits

22:19 The Business of Being an Artist

29:29 The Vulnerability of Seeking Gallery Representation

30:14 The Evolution of Art Marketing

30:49 Exciting Projects in Fodder School

32:03 Innovative Collage Techniques

33:04 The Significance of Found Objects

36:59 A Nomadic Life and Artistic Inspiration

38:55 Spanish Adventures and Renovations

43:56 Navigating Brexit and Relocation

48:01 Current Studio Setup and Teaching

54:04 Balancing Art Creation and Teaching

55:46 Upcoming Shows and Online Presence

56:50 Conclusion and Gratitude