In Episode 380 of Hidden Forces, Demetri Kofinas speaks with Luis Elizondo, the former head of AATIP, the U.S. Defense Department's program for investigating UFOs (now known as unidentified anomalous phenomena or UAP), about why he and so many other scientists, researchers, and people working in military intelligence claim that we are in contact with non-human superintelligence and how the government has been hiding it for nearly a century.

Luis Elizondo and Demetri spend the first hour of this episode exploring some of the more fantastical claims stemming from work Luis Elizondo did at AATIP, including declassified information that defies conventional explanations. The evidence suggests that humanity is in contact with some form of non-human superintelligence that has access to mystifying technologies, that we are living in some sort of simulation, and/or that some of our observations about the quantum behavior of subatomic particles have macro implications that may explain what we are seeing with UAP and UFOs.

In the second hour, Kofinas and Luis Elizondo discuss the correlation between UAP sightings and nuclear energy, the relationship between UFOs and water, and alleged evidence of black-budget programs where efforts are being made to reverse engineer alien technology, including claims made before members of the House Oversight Committee that government contractors are in possession of non-human biological material. They also explore the critical next steps that Luis Elizondo would like to see undertaken in the next few years that could lead to more disclosures about a phenomenon that he believes is the biggest story in human history.

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Episode Recorded on 09/03/2024