Vineyard Underground

Fritz welcomes Penn State entomologist Dr. Julie Urban for a look back at ten years of spotted lanternfly research — and what vineyard owners have learned along the way. Julie explains why grapevines are especially vulnerable: late-season feeding can disrupt resource flow and drain the carbohydrate reserves vines need for winter.

They walk through the lanternfly's life cycle, its unpredictable movement among host plants, and why spring nymph counts don't necessarily tell growers where adults will show up later. They also talk scouting, insecticide timing, tree of heaven, and research into gentler controls, parasitoid wasps, and even vibrations sent through trellis wires.

There's no single fix yet, but Julie shares why she's hopeful — and why growers' help matters.

In this episode, you will hear:

• A decade of spotted lanternfly research in the United States

• Why grapevines are especially vulnerable to lanternfly feeding

• The lanternfly's life cycle and unpredictable movement among host plants

• Vineyard scouting, insecticide timing, and edge treatments

• Research into biological controls and other management methods

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Today's Guest:

Dr. Julie Urban is an Associate Research Professor in the Penn State Department of Entomology and a leading evolutionary biologist at the forefront of managing the invasive spotted lanternfly crisis. Her groundbreaking research focuses on insect-microbial symbiosis, planthopper evolution, and developing integrated pest management strategies to protect valuable specialty crops across the United States.

Connect with Julie and follow her research - https://ento.psu.edu/directory/jmu2

View the Spotted Lanternfly Summit 2026 videos on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGdLGiiEvPWUC-lbnGuFFTt_1M1Cz1QDO

Episode Sponsor:

Today's episode was brought to you by HydroGeo Environmental and Vigneron Toy Store.

Thank you to HydroGeo Environmental for sponsoring today's episode. For over 20 years, Bubba Beasley and his team have helped vineyard growers evaluate sites, map properties, assess soil and groundwater, and design optimal vineyard layouts. By combining the latest technology with industry expertise, HydroGeo brings clarity to even the most complex landscapes. Visit HydroGeoEnvironmental.com and mention the Vineyard Underground podcast to receive a special discount on your service.

Thank you to Vigneron Toy Store for sponsoring today's episode. Vigneron Toy Store specializes in harvesters, sprayers, frost mitigation equipment, canopy management trimmers, and more. As grape growers themselves, the team can help you select the best equipment for your vineyard's specific needs. Podcast listeners can save 5% on in-stock machines by entering the promo code Underground on the contact form at vignerontoystore.com.

Episode Credits

If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com. Let them know we sent you.

Leading microbial ecologist from UC San Diego, Dr. Jack Gilbert joins us to talk about how soil and management decisions shape the vine and wine microbiome. We start by defining what a microbiome is in plain vineyard terms, and Dr. Gilbert explains how vines "select" specific microbes from the surrounding soil to support nutrient uptake, stress tolerance, and overall vine health.

We then walk through Dr. Gilbert's Merlot study that showed roughly 95% of the vine microbiome originates from the soil, and we discuss how these early microbial reactions can influence wine character before commercial yeast ever goes in. The conversation then turns to real-world vineyard practices. We cover how herbicides, tillage, compaction, and inputs can suppress or reshape soil biology.

Listeners also hear about emerging work at the UCSD Soil Health Center, including using soil "prebiotics" and "probiotics" together and developing digital twins of vineyards to time interventions more precisely.

In this episode, you will hear:

• Vines actively recruit microbes from the soil to support health, nutrient uptake, and stress tolerance

• Around 95% of the grapevine microbiome can be traced back to the soil where the vine is planted

• Early-stage fermentation on the fruit is influenced by native microbes, which can affect wine aroma and flavor

• Herbicides, pesticides, and heavy soil disturbance can suppress beneficial microbes and reduce soil function for years

• Building soil biology with organic matter, thoughtful inputs, and microbiome-aware practices can improve vine resilience and fruit quality

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Resources:

Register for Fritz's FREE live virtual post-harvest learning event - Vineyard Rx: Post-Harvest Diagnostics and Action Plans on October 7th at 6:00 PM Central.

Have a vineyard question? Go to VineyardUndergroundPodcast.com and click the Ask Fritz button.

Today's Guest:

Dr. Jack A. Gilbert is a world-renowned pioneer in microbial ecology who holds joint professorships at the University of California San Diego's Department of Pediatrics and the Scripps Institution of Oceanography. As the co-founder of the Earth Microbiome Project and author of Dirt is Good, his landmark research has been pivotal in proving that soil acts as the primary living reservoir for the grapevine microbiome, fundamentally shaping wine fermentation and character.

Connect with Jack and view his research at:

• UC San Diego Soil Health Center - https://soilhealthcenter.ucsd.edu/

• The Gilbert Lab at UCSD - https://gilbertlab.ucsd.edu/

Get his book, Dirt Is Good: The Advantage of Germs for Your Child's Developing Immune System - https://a.co/d/0iYBP4Sq

Episode Sponsor:

Today's episode was brought to you by Sunridge Nurseries and SensorInsight.

Thank you to Sunridge Nurseries for sponsoring today's episode. Sunridge Nurseries is the exclusive nursery sponsor of the Vineyard Underground podcast. They have been a family-owned company for over 45 years, and their dedicated focus on quality and consistency has grown them into the largest supplier of grapevines in both North and South America and the industry leader in nursery standards. Visit them today at SunridgeNurseries.com and mention the code Underground to receive a podcast listener discount on your vine order.

Thank you to SensorInsight for sponsoring today's episode. SensorInsight is a leader in vineyard soil moisture and weather monitoring. SensorInsight designs state-of-the-art, remote satellite monitoring of soil moisture and weather, bringing actionable information for your vineyard operations straight to your phone, with real-time data so you can best decide when to turn on your irrigation, how long to run the system, and learn how the dynamics of soil moisture can change over a given season. Visit them today at https://sensorinsight.io. And don't forget to mention the code Underground to receive a discount on your SensorInsight solution.

Episode Credits

If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com. Let them know we sent you.

A big life change is brewing as Fritz shares a personal update from his new home base in Denver, Colorado! After nearly two decades in Houston, he and his family have moved to be closer to the mountains, cooler weather, and an outdoor lifestyle, while still staying near a major airport so he can keep serving growers across the Americas.

Nothing about the support, education, or consulting listeners receive is changing; if anything, Fritz feels more energized and inspired to bring fresh ideas to the podcast and the Virtual Viticulture Academy community.

In this episode, you will hear:

• Reasons for relocating to Colorado and the outdoor-focused lifestyle

• Reassurance that consulting, podcast education, and grower support remain the same

• How proximity to a major airport keeps vineyard travel and client work on track

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Register for Fritz's FREE live virtual post-harvest learning event - Vineyard Rx: Post-Harvest Diagnostics and Action Plans on October 7th at 6:00 PM Central.

Have a vineyard question? Go to VineyardUndergroundPodcast.com and click the Ask Fritz button.

Episode Sponsor:

Today's episode was brought to you by Sunridge Nurseries.

Thank you to Sunridge Nurseries for sponsoring today's episode. Sunridge Nurseries is the exclusive nursery sponsor of the Vineyard Underground podcast. They have been a family-owned company for over 45 years, and their dedicated focus on quality and consistency has grown them into the largest supplier of grapevines in both North and South America and the industry leader in nursery standards. Visit them today at SunridgeNurseries.com and mention the code Underground to receive a podcast listener discount on your vine order.

Episode Credits

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Fritz welcomes back Dr. Kendra Baumgartner, a longtime friend and one of his very first podcast guests, to tackle a question every grower eventually faces: when does an aging vineyard block cross from struggling to done? Kendra walks through the trunk diseases, root pathogens, and viruses that build up in vines over decades, explaining which problems a vine can carry for years and which ones signal it's time to act. Fritz and Kendra cover how to sample and diagnose these issues in the field, when retraining a vine still makes sense, and when replanting is the smarter call.

Kendra brings decades of USDA plant pathology experience and now runs her own vineyard consulting practice, giving growers a clear framework for reading the signs before decline spreads across a whole block.

Growers walking their older vineyards this fall will find plenty to take back into the rows.

In this episode, you will hear:

• Trunk diseases like esca, Eutypa, and Botryosphaeria dieback, and how fast each one actually kills a vine

• Sawing into a vine to find wood cankers and confirm a diagnosis before ripping anything out

• When retraining or "vine surgery" saves a declining vine, and when it's a waste of time

• Root diseases including armillaria, black foot, and phytophthora, and the wet soil conditions that invite them

• Leafroll and red blotch virus, how they spread, and their long term drag on fruit quality

• Grape root borer, cane borer, and nematodes as hidden causes of vineyard decline

• A practical framework for deciding whether to retrain, replant, or rip out an aging block

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Episode Resources:

Register for Fritz's FREE live virtual post-harvest learning event - Vineyard Rx: Post-Harvest Diagnostics and Action Plans on October 7th at 6:00 PM Central.

Have a vineyard question? Go to VineyardUndergroundPodcast.com and click the Ask Fritz button.

Today's Guest:

Dr. Kendra Baumgartner is a retired Research Plant Pathologist for the USDA Agricultural Research Service and is based at the University of California, Davis.

Connect with Kendra at nextvintageconsulting.com or email her at [email protected].

Episode Sponsor:

Today's episode was brought to you by Vigneron Toy Store.

Thank you to Vigneron Toy Store for sponsoring today's episode. Vigneron Toy Store specializes in Harvesters, Sprayers, Frost Mitigation Equipment, Canopy Management Trimmers, and more. As grape growers themselves, they can expertly help you determine the best equipment for your specific vineyard needs. And, as a special offer for our podcast listeners, you can save 5% off in-stock machines by entering the promo code Underground on the contact form at vignerontoystore.com.

Episode Credits

If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com. Let them know we sent you.

In this episode, Fritz talks with Shiraz Mottiar, Team Principal and GM at Malivoir Wine Company in Ontario, Canada, about three sustainability practices any vineyard can put into place, whether or not they are pursuing certification.

Shiraz shares the story of Malivoir's growth on the Beamsville Bench and his long involvement with Sustainable Winegrowing Ontario and research at Brock University's Cool Climate Enology and Viticulture Institute. Fritz and Shiraz compare certified sustainable vs organic approaches, focusing on how sustainability balances environmental care, community impact, and business viability.

Listeners learn how Malivoir manages soil health through semi-permanent cover crops, alternating tillage, compost and manure, and careful mowing to reduce erosion on sloped, clay-based sites. Shiraz explains how they trial biological soil and foliar products in small blocks, leaving untreated controls and collecting data like cluster weights before adopting anything widely.

Listen in to learn about the sustainability practices every vineyard can implement.

In this episode, you will hear:

• How semi-permanent cover crops and alternating tillage cycles can build soil structure and reduce erosion.

• Why Shiraz shifted from organic certification to a broader sustainability framework that includes economics and community impact.

• How to set scouting protocols and thresholds so you are spraying pests only when you truly need to.

• Simple ways to trial biological products using side‑by‑side comparisons and vineyard data instead of marketing claims.

• Why packaging and glass reuse may be the next major frontier for vineyard and winery sustainability.

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Resources:

Have a vineyard question? Go to VineyardUndergroundPodcast.com and click the Ask Fritz button.

Come grow with Fritz at https://www.virtualviticultureacademy.com! Save $75 off your first year of membership with the code Underground at checkout.

Today's Guest:

Shiraz Mottiar is a highly celebrated Canadian viticulturist and wine executive. He currently serves as the General Manager, Team Principal, and Winegrowing Director at Malivoire Wine Company on the Beamsville Bench in Niagara, Ontario.

Connect with Shiraz - https://malivoire.com/

Episode Sponsor:

Today's episode was brought to you by Sunridge Nurseries and Clemens Technologies.

Thank you to Sunridge Nurseries for sponsoring today's episode. Sunridge Nurseries is the exclusive nursery sponsor of the Vineyard Underground podcast. They have been a family-owned company for over 45 years, and their dedicated focus on quality and consistency has grown them into the largest supplier of grapevines in both North and South America and the industry leader in nursery standards. Visit them today at SunridgeNurseries.com and mention the code Underground to receive a podcast listener discount on your vine order.

Thank you to Clemens Technologies for sponsoring today's episode. Clemens Technologies is the market leader in machinery for all elements of vineyard management. Visit https://www.clemens-online.com/us/ and provide the code UNDERGROUND to receive 5% off your order of in-stock machinery. Or reach out to Thomas Clemens directly at [email protected] with any questions.

Episode Credits

If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com. Let them know we sent you.

In this bonus episode, Fritz shares key lessons from his week in Ontario as the invited speaker for the 13th Triggs International Premium Vinifera Lecture Series, hosted by Brock University's Cool Climate Enology and Viticulture Institute.

Speaking directly to cool-climate vineyard owners and managers, Fritz explains why nutrient management is a pressing topic for Canadian growers, particularly in non-irrigated vineyards that rely on ground-applied fertilizers. He walks through current practices in Ontario, contrasts them with fertigation approaches used in British Columbia, and highlights where growers have strong foundations and where there is room to refine their approach.

Listeners will come away with specific ways to fine-tune sampling, fertilizer timing, and nutrient sources to support vine balance and fruit quality in cool-climate vineyards.

In this episode, you will hear:

• Why the Triggs Lecture Series matters for cool-climate vineyards

• How Ontario growers currently manage nutrients without irrigation

• When and why to add leaf blade sampling and bloom-time tissue tests

• Smarter timing for soil vs foliar nitrogen, magnesium, and boron applications

• Common nutrient issues in Ontario and better options for addressing them

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Resources:

Have a vineyard question? Go to VineyardUndergroundPodcast.com and click the Ask Fritz button.

Come grow with Fritz at https://www.virtualviticultureacademy.com! Save $75 off your first year of membership with the code Underground at checkout.

Episode Sponsor:

Today's episode was brought to you by Clemens Technologies.

Thank you to Clemens Technologies for sponsoring today's episode. Clemens Technologies is the market leader in machinery for all elements of vineyard management. Visit https://www.clemens-online.com/us/ and provide the code UNDERGROUND to receive 5% off your order of in-stock machinery. Or reach out to Thomas Clemens directly at [email protected] with any questions.

Episode Credits

If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com. Let them know we sent you.

In this Q&A episode of Vineyard Underground, Fritz answers real-world questions from growers across the U.S., covering late-season disease management, water and nutrient strategy, and vine removal decisions. Fritz talks through post-harvest care for young, non-bearing vines, how to handle irrigation and foliar disease pressure in different regions, and clears up confusion around growing degree days.

He also explains how to work with phosphorous acid fungicides and spray tank pH, why and how to remove struggling vines when repurposing a block, and ways to improve fruit acidity and yeast-assimilable nitrogen for better fermentations. The episode closes with guidance on supporting weaker replants surrounded by mature vines. Listeners will gain clear, field-tested guidance they can apply right away to protect vine health, improve fruit quality, and make smarter long-term decisions in their vineyards.

In this episode, you will hear:

• How to manage irrigation and disease control for non-bearing young vines heading into fall

• Why negative growing degree days are set to zero and how to choose a realistic start date

• Best timing and methods for removing underperforming vines

• How phosphorous acid fungicides fit into a spray program and why spray water pH matters

• Ways to boost fruit YAN and acidity, while supporting pale, third-leaf replants facing competition with mature vines

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Episode Sponsor:

Today's episode was brought to you by Vintner's Vault and Vigneron Toy Store.

Thank you to Vintner's Vault for sponsoring today's episode! Vintner's Vault is the #1 winery equipment company that I recommend to my growers, who are also winemakers. Visit TheVintnerVault.com and use the code UNDERGROUND5 (all caps) to save 5% off of your online order or mention that you heard about them on the Vineyard Underground podcast when contacting them for a larger piece of equipment, consulting services, or turn-key packages, and they will provide a podcast listener discount for you.

Thank you to Vigneron Toy Store for sponsoring today's episode. Vigneron Toy Store specializes in Harvesters, Sprayers, Frost Mitigation Equipment, Canopy Management Trimmers, and more. As grape growers themselves, they can expertly help you determine the best equipment for your specific vineyard needs. And, as a special offer for our podcast listeners, you can save 5% off in-stock machines by entering the promo code Underground on the contact form at vignerontoystore.com.

Episode Credits

If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com. Let them know we sent you.

In this episode of Vineyard Underground, Fritz talks with Dr. Mark Krasnow of Thoughtful Viticulture about how to tell real vine stress from false alarms in the vineyard.

Mark explains why grapevines are often tougher than they look and breaks stress into three main categories: water, heat, and wind. He and Fritz highlight common misreads and show how these assumptions lead to overwatering, shallow roots, excess vigor, and higher disease risk.

The conversation focuses on using data instead of guesswork, pairing tools such as pressure bombs, porometers, and soil moisture probes so growers can set meaningful irrigation thresholds. Mark also shares why he prefers early-season water stress for red varieties to influence berry size and phenolics, while keeping vines better supplied after veraison.

They compare stress responses in young versus mature vines and touch on Mark's work with powdery mildew spore monitoring, which suggests many early-season sprays may be unnecessary.

In this episode, you will hear:

• Why grapevines are often more resilient than growers assume

• How overwatering can create shallow roots, excess vigor, and more disease risk

• The difference between perceived water stress and measured stress

• How to pair soil moisture probes with pressure bomb readings to set a real "red line" for irrigation

• Why early-season water stress can improve red wine quality when managed correctly

• How vine age affects stress tolerance and root development

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Resources:

If you're starting a vineyard or thinking about starting a vineyard, visit https://www.virtualviticultureacademy.com/growsmart to get Fritz's online Prospective Winegrape Grower Course to help you get your vineyard planned and planted correctly from the start. Use the code PODCAST at checkout to save $89.99 as a thank you for being a podcast listener.

Have a vineyard question? Go to VineyardUndergroundPodcast.com and click the Ask Fritz button.

Today's Guest:

Dr. Mark Krasnow is a renowned plant physiologist and consultant and the founder of Thoughtful Viticulture – a company that helps vineyards grow the highest quality fruit in the most sustainable and efficient manner possible.

Connect with Mark at thoughtfulviticulture.com and follow him @drkraz or on his blog https://www.thoughtfulviticulture.com/blog.

Episode Sponsor:

Today's episode was brought to you by HydroGeo Environmental and SensorInsight.

Thank you to HydroGeo Environmental for sponsoring today's episode. For over 20 years, Bubba Beasley and his team have helped vineyard growers with site assessments, mapping, soil and groundwater evaluations, and optimal vineyard layouts. Using the latest technology and industry expertise, HydroGeo brings clarity to even the most complex landscapes. Visit HydroGeoEnvironmental.com and mention the Vineyard Underground podcast for a special discount on your service.

Thank you to SensorInsight for sponsoring today's episode. SensorInsight is a leader in vineyard soil moisture and weather monitoring. SensorInsight designs state-of-the-art, remote satellite monitoring of soil moisture and weather, bringing actionable information for your vineyard operations straight to your phone, with real-time data so you can best decide when to turn on your irrigation, how long to run the system, and learn how the dynamics of soil moisture can change over a given season. Visit them today at https://sensorinsight.io. And don't forget to mention the code Underground to receive a discount on your SensorInsight solution.

Episode Credits

If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com. Let them know we sent you.

In this conversation, Fritz continues his deep dive with Thijs Verschuuren of Herman J. Wiemer, exploring practical baby steps toward biodynamic and organic vineyard management. Thijs walks through how he structures a non-systemic spray program in a high-disease-pressure region, breaking down critical spray timing, coverage strategies, and why he treats bloom and cap fall as "non-negotiable" spray windows.

They discuss how Thijs combines copper, sulfur, plant teas, biologicals, and newer tools like chitosan-based fungicides and kaolin clay to target downy mildew, black rot, powdery mildew, and leafhoppers, while staying within strict copper limits and managing livestock safety.

Fritz and Thijs also cover biodynamic teas, how forecasting and 48‑hour brews fit into a preventive program, and why daily scouting and mapping disease "pockets" are essential. The conversation concludes with canopy management, pruning, mechanization, and thoughtful leaf removal that maintain disease control without sacrificing the acidity and fruit quality of Riesling and Chardonnay on the path to Demeter certification.

In this episode, you will hear:

• Why spray timing and coverage matter more than product choice in organic and biodynamic programs

• How to integrate copper, sulfur, oils, chitosan, and kaolin clay while respecting label limits and site conditions

• Practical strategies for managing downy mildew, black rot, and powdery mildew with a mostly protectant toolbox

• How biodynamic teas and preparations fit into a preventive, weather‑driven vineyard health program

• Daily scouting, mapping, and localized spraying as core tools to limit disease spread and input use

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Today's Guest:

Thijs Verschuuren is the Director of Vineyard Biology & Biodynamic Specialist at Hermann J. Wiemer Vineyard in upstate New York.

Connect with Thijs at https://www.wiemer.com/ or follow him at hermannjwiemer.

Resources:

Come grow with Fritz at https://www.virtualviticultureacademy.com! Save $75 off your first year of membership with the code Underground at checkout.

Have a vineyard question? Go to VineyardUndergroundPodcast.com and click the Ask Fritz button.

Episode Sponsor:

Today's episode was brought to you by Clemens and HydroGeo Environmental.

Thank you to Clemens Technologies for sponsoring today's episode. Clemens Technologies is the market leader in machinery for all elements of vineyard management. Visit https://www.clemens-online.com/us/ and provide the code UNDERGROUND to receive 5% off your order of in-stock machinery. Or reach out to Thomas Clemens directly at [email protected] with any questions.

Thank you to HydroGeo Environmental for sponsoring today's episode. For over 20 years, Bubba Beasley and his team have helped vineyard growers with site assessments, mapping, soil and groundwater evaluations, and optimal vineyard layouts. Using the latest technology and industry expertise, HydroGeo brings clarity to even the most complex landscapes. Visit HydroGeoEnvironmental.com and mention the Vineyard Underground podcast for a special discount on your service.

Episode Credits

If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com. Let them know we sent you.

In this episode, we dig into what it really looks like to take manageable, real-world steps toward biodynamic and organic winegrowing with Thijs (Taze) Verschuuren, Director of Vineyard Biology and biodynamic specialist at Hermann J. Wiemer Vineyard in New York's Finger Lakes.

We follow Thijs's path from European wine regions to the Finger Lakes and unpack the make-or-break 2018 season. That side‑by‑side contrast pushed the team to fully embrace biodynamics and pursue Demeter certification.

We break down biodynamics in practical terms: treating the farm as a living, self-sustaining organism that integrates cover crops, livestock, compost, and on-farm preparations to build resilience from the soil up. Then we zoom into vineyard floor management as an accessible entry point, showing how diverse clover mixes, smarter mowing vs. crimping decisions, and minimal cultivation helped boost soil organic matter from ~1.7% to over 6% in about seven years — one "baby step" at a time.

In this episode, you will hear:

• Why a wet 2018 season pushed Hermann J. Wiemer to deepen its biodynamic commitment

• How biodynamics differs from organics in philosophy and farm design

• A practical framework for cover crops (especially clovers) to build organic matter and vine resilience

• When to mow, when to crimp, and why there's no "set-it-and-forget-it" spray or floor program

• Baby-step starting points: soil testing, cover cropping, and small-scale animal integration

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If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to follow the podcast and leave a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts! Your support helps us reach more listeners. 💜 Click the '+' in the top right corner of Apple Podcasts to follow now.

Today's Guest:

Thijs Verschuuren is the Director of Vineyard Biology & Biodynamic Specialist at Hermann J. Wiemer Vineyard in upstate New York.

Connect with Thijs at https://www.wiemer.com/ or follow him at hermannjwiemer.

Resources:

Come grow with Fritz at https://www.virtualviticultureacademy.com! Save $75 off your first year of membership with the code Underground at checkout.

Have a vineyard question? Go to VineyardUndergroundPodcast.com and click the Ask Fritz button.

Episode Sponsor:

Today's episode was brought to you by Clemens and HydroGeo Environmental.

Thank you to Clemens Technologies for sponsoring today's episode. Clemens Technologies is the market leader in machinery for all elements of vineyard management. Visit https://www.clemens-online.com/us/ and provide the code UNDERGROUND to receive 5% off your order of in-stock machinery. Or reach out to Thomas Clemens directly at [email protected] with any questions.

Thank you to HydroGeo Environmental for sponsoring today's episode. For over 20 years, Bubba Beasley and his team have helped vineyard growers with site assessments, mapping, soil and groundwater evaluations, and optimal vineyard layouts. Using the latest technology and industry expertise, HydroGeo brings clarity to even the most complex landscapes. Visit HydroGeoEnvironmental.com and mention the Vineyard Underground podcast for a special discount on your service.

Episode Credits

If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com. Let them know we sent you.