Small vineyard decisions made early in the season can create major ripple effects later in the year, and in this episode, Fritz breaks down three vineyard management tasks that are frequently skipped, delayed, or underestimated despite their outsized impact on vine health, fruit quality, and long-term vineyard performance.

Fritz focuses first on shoot thinning and explains why timing is everything. He walks through the economic and practical advantages of thinning early, including improved spray penetration, better airflow, easier hand harvesting, and even reduced pruning labor during dormancy.

He then explains why bloom and veraison sampling windows are critical for understanding nutrient status and preventing deficiencies before they become costly problems. Lastly, he tackles water stress monitoring and the common misconceptions surrounding vineyard stress.

Listen in for practical ways growers can monitor irrigation effectiveness, evaluate soil moisture, and avoid relying solely on visual assumptions about vine stress levels. Remember, better data leads to better vineyard decisions.

In this episode, you will hear:

• Early shoot thinning can improve fruit quality, airflow, spray coverage, and long-term pruning efficiency

• Delayed shoot thinning increases labor costs and creates more winter pruning wounds susceptible to trunk disease

• Tissue sampling at bloom and veraison helps growers identify nutrient deficiencies before productivity suffers

• Leaf blade sampling may provide more reliable nutrient data than petiole sampling for many nutrients

• Water stress should be monitored with both field observation and measurable soil moisture data

• Excess vigor, nutrient imbalance, weather extremes, fungal disease, and insects can all contribute to flower browning during bloom

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Episode Sponsor:

Today's episode was brought to you by SensorInsight and Clemens Technologies.

Thank you to SensorInsight for sponsoring today's episode. SensorInsight is a leader in vineyard soil moisture and weather monitoring. SensorInsight designs state-of-the-art, remote satellite monitoring of soil moisture and weather, bringing actionable information for your vineyard operations straight to your phone, with real-time data so you can best decide when to turn on your irrigation, how long to run the system, and learn how the dynamics of soil moisture can change over a given season. Visit them today at https://sensorinsight.io. And don't forget to mention the code Underground to receive a discount on your SensorInsight solution.

Thank you to Clemens Technologies for sponsoring today's episode. Clemens Technologies is the market leader in machinery for all elements of vineyard management. Visit https://www.clemens-online.com/us/ and provide the code UNDERGROUND to receive 5% off your order of in-stock machinery. Or reach out to Thomas Clemens directly at [email protected] with any questions.

Episode Credits

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We are back with another solo episode! Fritz dives into the world of Reddit viticulture advice to separate helpful guidance from misleading recommendations. Using real vineyard and winemaking questions pulled from Reddit threads, Fritz evaluates the quality of the responses while adding his own professional perspective.

The episode covers a wide range of vineyard topics, but throughout it, Fritz highlights an important lesson for growers at every level: context matters. Many online answers contain kernels of truth, but successful vineyard management depends on site conditions, climate, soil, vine age, regional disease pressure, and long-term goals. He explains why broad internet advice often lacks the specificity growers actually need to make confident decisions.

Listeners will come away with a fresh perspective on vineyard establishment, irrigation management, pruning strategies, disease prevention, and realistic expectations for small-scale winegrowing projects.

In this episode, you will hear:

• Establishing vineyards in cool climates like the UK and Northern Europe

• PIWI grape varieties and disease-resistant planting strategies

• Realistic timelines for vineyard establishment and first harvests

• Challenges of starting and managing a small hobby vineyard

• Irrigation management for young vines during extreme summer heat

• Reviving neglected Frontenac and Edelweiss vineyards in the Midwest

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Resources:

If you're starting a vineyard or thinking about starting a vineyard, visit https://www.virtualviticultureacademy.com/growsmart to get Fritz's online Prospective Winegrape Grower Course to help you get your vineyard planned and planted correctly from the start. Use the code PODCAST at checkout to save $89.99 as a thank you for being a podcast listener.

Get more information from Fritz about soil moisture sensors – types of sensors, location and placement, installation, and understanding soil monitoring data at https://www.virtualviticultureacademy.com/sensor.

Have a vineyard question? Go to VineyardUndergroundPodcast.com and click the Ask Fritz button.

Episode Sponsor:

Today's episode was brought to you by Vintner's Vault and Vigneron Toy Store.

Thank you to Vintner's Vault for sponsoring today's episode! Vintner's Vault is the #1 winery equipment company that I recommend to my growers, who are also winemakers. Visit TheVintnerVault.com and use the code UNDERGROUND5 (all caps) to save 5% off of your online order, or mention that you heard about them on the Vineyard Underground podcast when contacting them for a larger piece of equipment, consulting services, or turn-key packages, and they will provide a podcast listener discount for you.

Thank you to Vigneron Toy Store for sponsoring today's episode. Vigneron Toy Store specializes in Harvesters, Sprayers, Frost Mitigation Equipment, Canopy Management Trimmers, and more. As grape growers themselves, they can expertly help you determine the best equipment for your specific vineyard needs. And, as a special offer for our podcast listeners, you can save 5% off in-stock machines by entering the promo code Underground on the contact form at vignerontoystore.com.

Episode Credits

If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com. Let them know we sent you.

Plant growth regulators (PGRs) are powerful tools that can dramatically influence vine performance, but they also come with complexity and risk. In this episode, Fritz welcomes back Dr. Matthew W. Fidelibus of UC Davis to explore how these compounds are used across table, raisin, and wine grape production.

Dr. Fidelibus explains that PGRs include both naturally occurring plant hormones and synthetic compounds that mimic hormonal effects. While they've long been foundational in table grape production, their use in winegrapes is far less common and more nuanced. The conversation highlights how sensitivity to timing, rate, and variety is critical, with even small misapplications potentially affecting fruit set, bud development, or yields across multiple seasons.

Fritz and Dr. Fidelibus dig into specific compounds like gibberellic acid, abscisic acid, and ethephon, discussing how they can influence berry size, cluster architecture, color development, and ripening. They also explore emerging research on improving color in virus-affected vineyards, delaying ripening in warm climates, and even modifying aroma profiles.

A key takeaway is that PGRs are not a one-size-fits-all solution. They require careful evaluation, regulatory compliance, and, ideally, small-scale trials before broader use. For growers facing challenges like poor fruit set, uneven ripening, or compact clusters, these tools may offer targeted solutions — but only when used with precision and a strong understanding of vine physiology.

Listeners will walk away with a clearer understanding of both the potential and the pitfalls of incorporating PGRs into vineyard management.

In this episode, you will hear:

• Overview of plant growth regulators and how they influence vine physiology

• Historical use of PGRs in table and raisin grape production

• Key compounds like gibberellic acid, abscisic acid, and ethephon

• Applications for cluster thinning, berry sizing, and color development

• Challenges and risks of using PGRs in winegrapes

• Emerging research, including virus mitigation and ripening control

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Resources:

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Today's Guest:

Dr. Matthew W. Fidelibus is an extension specialist in the Department of Viticulture and Enology, UC Davis.

Connect with Matthew and view his research – https://wineserver.ucdavis.edu/people/matthew-fidelibus#/ or follow him at https://bsky.app/profile/viticulture.bsky.social

Episode Sponsor:

Today's episode was brought to you by Clemens Technologies and SensorInsight.

Thank you to Clemens Technologies for sponsoring today's episode. Clemens Technologies is the market leader in machinery for all elements of vineyard management. Visit https://www.clemens-online.com/us/ and provide the code UNDERGROUND to receive 5% off your order of in-stock machinery. Or reach out to Thomas Clemens directly at [email protected] with any questions.

Thank you to SensorInsight for sponsoring today's episode. SensorInsight is a leader in vineyard soil moisture and weather monitoring. SensorInsight designs state-of-the-art, remote satellite monitoring of soil moisture and weather, bringing actionable information for your vineyard operations straight to your phone, with real-time data so you can best decide when to turn on your irrigation, how long to run the system, and learn how the dynamics of soil moisture can change over a given season. Visit them today at https://sensorinsight.io. And don't forget to mention the code Underground to receive a discount on your SensorInsight solution.

Episode Credits

If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com. Let them know we sent you.

Organic grape production is gaining momentum, but making the transition from conventional farming requires careful planning, patience, and a willingness to adapt. In this episode of Vineyard Underground, Fritz welcomes Rob Warren, owner and operator of Desert Willow Vineyard and Warren Farms in Seminole, Texas, to share his experience converting his vineyard to certified organic production.

Rob explains how his agricultural background in organic row crops gave him experience with organic systems long before he applied those principles to grape growing. As consumer demand began to shift toward more natural and sustainably produced wines, wineries started seeking organic fruit, prompting Rob to pursue certification.

During the conversation, Fritz and Rob walk through the realities of transitioning a vineyard to organic management. Rob discusses the three-year certification timeline, the importance of documenting the final use of conventional inputs, and the need for growers to rethink pest, disease, and weed management strategies.

A major focus of the episode is that Rob uses sheep in the vineyard. The sheep help control weeds, provide natural fertilization, and even assist with canopy management by removing leaves in the fruiting zone.

Throughout the episode, Rob provides honest background information on the challenges and the long-term benefits of improved soil health and stronger vine resilience.

For vineyard owners considering organic production, this episode offers practical guidance and real-world lessons from a grower who has successfully made the switch.

In this episode, you will hear:

• Market demand from wineries and consumers increasingly favors organic grape production

• Weed management is often the biggest early challenge when moving away from conventional herbicides

• Sheep can play a valuable role in weed control, fertilization, and canopy leaf removal

• Organic pest and disease control often requires more frequent monitoring and spray applications

• Soil health improvements through cover crops and livestock integration strengthen long-term vineyard resilience

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Resources:

Register for Fritz's live, virtual two‑day Early Season Vineyard Management Bootcamp on April 22nd and 23rd.

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Have a vineyard question? Go to VineyardUndergroundPodcast.com and click the Ask Fritz button.

Today's Guest:

Rob Warren is the owner and operator of Desert Willow Vineyard and Warren Farms in Seminole, Texas, and a leading innovator in regenerative and organic vineyard management and farming.

Connect with Rob:

• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/desertwillowvineyard

• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/desertwillowvineyard/

• YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrjWaulJw7tATQC3trzhPJQ

Episode Sponsor:

Today's episode was brought to you by Clemens Technologies and Sunridge Nurseries.

Thank you to Clemens Technologies for sponsoring today's episode. Clemens Technologies is the market leader in machinery for all elements of vineyard management. Visit https://www.clemens-online.com/us/ and provide the code UNDERGROUND to receive 5% off your order of in-stock machinery. Or reach out to Thomas Clemens directly at [email protected] with any questions.

Thank you to Sunridge Nurseries for sponsoring today's episode. Sunridge Nurseries is the exclusive nursery sponsor of the Vineyard Underground podcast. They have been a family-owned company for over 45 years, and their dedicated focus on quality and consistency has grown them into the largest supplier of grapevines in both North and South America and the industry leader in nursery standards. Visit them today at SunridgeNurseries.com and mention the code Underground to receive a podcast listener discount on your vine order.

Episode Credits

If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com. Let them know we sent you.

In this final installment of the Vineyard Nutrition Essentials series, Fritz is joined by Dr. Jaclyn Fiola, Assistant Professor of Soil and Environmental Science at Delaware Valley University, to unpack the critical role magnesium plays in vineyard health and productivity. Building on prior discussions around potassium, the conversation explores how magnesium functions as a key macronutrient, particularly as the central component of chlorophyll and a driver of photosynthesis and energy transfer in grapevines.

Dr. Fiola explains that magnesium primarily originates from soil minerals, especially in darker, magnesium-rich parent materials, and that soil characteristics such as pH, texture, moisture, and cation exchange capacity influence its availability. There is a delicate balance between magnesium, potassium, and calcium, and nutrient competition can lead to deficiencies even when soil levels appear adequate.

Listeners will learn how to identify magnesium deficiency symptoms, including interveinal chlorosis in older leaves, and why these symptoms typically emerge later in the growing season. The episode also underscores the importance of accurate diagnosis through soil and tissue testing to avoid mismanagement.

Listen now to learn the important role of magnesium in your vineyard.

In this episode, you will hear:

• Magnesium as a core component of chlorophyll and photosynthesis

• Soil pH, texture, and moisture driving nutrient availability

• Competition between magnesium, potassium, and calcium

• Late-season deficiency symptoms and how to recognize them

• Importance of tissue testing for accurate diagnosis

• Pre-plant and in-season magnesium correction strategies

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Resources:

Visit www.virtualviticultureacademy.com/sampling to access Fritz's how-to guides and videos for proper sampling and target nutrient values.

Listen to Dr. Jaclyn Fiola's previous podcast episode (episode 73) to learn about the role of potassium in vineyards.

Have a vineyard question? Go to VineyardUndergroundPodcast.com and click the Ask Fritz button.

Come grow with Fritz through https://www.virtualviticultureacademy.com! Save $75 off your first year of membership with the code Underground at checkout.

Today's Guest:

Dr. Jaclyn Fiola is a soil scientist who specializes in vineyard soils and soil science pedagogy. She works as an Assistant Professor of Soil and Environmental Science at Delaware Valley University.

Connect with Jaclyn, follow her, and view her research.

Episode Sponsor:

Today's episode was brought to you by Vigneron Toy Store and Shellt Grow Tubes.

Thank you to Vigneron Toy Store for sponsoring today's episode. Vigneron Toy Store specializes in Harvesters, Sprayers, Frost Mitigation Equipment, Canopy Management Trimmers, and more. As grape growers themselves, they can expertly help you determine the best equipment for your specific vineyard needs. And, as a special offer for our podcast listeners, you can save 5% off in-stock machines by entering the promo code Underground on the contact form at vignerontoystore.com.

Thank you to Shellt Grow Tubes for sponsoring today's episode. Shellt makes the ultimate grow tubes for grape vines and orchard trees. Their grow tubes are reusable, recyclable, and designed to grow with your vineyard by clicking together for taller or wider coverage. I exclusively recommend Shellt Grow Tubes to the growers I work with. Visit https://www.shellt.us/ and order with the code UNDERGROUND to save 15% off all online orders, plus free shipping within the continental United States.

Episode Credits

If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com. Let them know we sent you.

Phosphorus may not grab attention like nitrogen or potassium, but it plays a foundational role in vine growth, fruit set, and overall vineyard performance. In this episode of Vineyard Underground, Fritz welcomes Dr. Terry Bates, Senior Research Associate at Cornell University and Director of the Cornell Lake Erie Research and Extension Lab for Cornell AgriTech, for a deep dive into phosphorus fundamentals.

Drawing on decades of research in plant nutrition and root biology, Dr. Bates explains what phosphorus is, where it comes from, and why it is essential for grapevines at the cellular level. From its role in energy transfer and DNA structure to its influence on root growth and fruit development, phosphorus is woven into nearly every aspect of vine physiology.

Vineyard owners and operators will walk away with useful guidance on managing phosphorus efficiently while protecting both yield and long-term soil health.

In this episode, you will hear:

• Phosphorus drives energy transfer, root development, and fruit set

• Soil pH directly impacts phosphorus availability and uptake

• Mycorrhizal fungi are essential partners in grapevine phosphorus nutrition

• Excess phosphorus application wastes money and reduces efficiency

• Tissue sampling helps balance nutrient supply, uptake, and vine demand

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Resources:

Visit www.virtualviticultureacademy.com/sampling to access Fritz's how-to guides and videos for proper sampling and target nutrient values.

Learn more about Mycorrhizal Fungi in Episode 75 - The Importance of Mycorrhizal Fungi for Vineyard Health with Dr. R. Paul Schreiner.

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Have a vineyard question? Go to VineyardUndergroundPodcast.com and click the Ask Fritz button.

Today's Guest:

Dr. Terry Bates is the Senior Research Associate at Cornell University and the Director of the Cornell Lake Erie Research and Extension Lab for Cornell AgriTech.

Connect with Terry

· Cornell Research & Publications - https://cals.cornell.edu/people/terry-bates

· The Efficient Vineyard Project - https://www.efficientvineyard.com/

Episode Sponsor:

Today's episode was brought to you by Shellt Grow Tubes and Bahco Tools.

Thank you to Shellt Grow Tubes for sponsoring today's episode. Shellt makes the ultimate grow tubes for grape vines and orchard trees. Their grow tubes are reusable, recyclable, and designed to grow with your vineyard by clicking together for taller or wider coverage. I exclusively recommend Shellt Grow Tubes to the growers I work with. Visit https://www.shellt.us/ and order with the code UNDERGROUND to save 15% off all online orders, plus free shipping within the continental United States.

Thank you to Bahco Tools for sponsoring today's episode. As innovators for more than 165 years, Bahco has introduced the most advanced tools in the world, and Bahco products are manufactured in factories across Europe. I exclusively prune with the Bahco ERGO™ Bypass Secateurs with Elastomer Coated Fixed Handle (size medium). Visit www.bahco.com/int_en to find a dealer near you to get the best pruning tools on the market, along with loppers, hedging tools, cutting blades, files, and more.

Episode Credits

If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com. Let them know we sent you.

In this first installment of a three-part vineyard nutrition series, Dr. Markus Keller joins us to break down one of the most influential nutrients in vineyard management: nitrogen. We explore from the ground up.

Dr. Keller explains what nitrogen is, where it comes from in vineyard soils, and why it plays such a critical role in vine growth, fruit set, and overall vine performance. While nitrogen makes up 78% of the atmosphere, vines rely on soil processes to convert it into plant-available forms like nitrate.

Dr. Keller details how nitrogen influences vigor, canopy density, fruit set, berry size, phenolic development, and even wine quality. The episode also dives into how soil type, organic matter, temperature, moisture, and cover crops affect nitrogen availability. For growers across diverse regions, this conversation highlights why vineyard nutrition strategies must be site-specific.

Whether you're managing high-vigor blocks or navigating lean soils, episode one of our three-part series equips vineyard owners and operators with foundational knowledge to make smarter nitrogen decisions.

In this episode, you will hear:

• Nitrogen primarily comes from soil organic matter, not rock minerals

• Microbial activity drives nitrogen availability in vineyards

• Both deficiency and excess nitrogen can reduce vine balance and fruitfulness

• Soil moisture and temperature strongly influence nitrogen mineralization

• Leaf blade tissue sampling offers improved precision for nitrogen analysis

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Resources:

Visit www.virtualviticultureacademy.com/sampling to access Fritz's how-to guides and videos for proper sampling and target nutrient values.

Have a vineyard question? Go to VineyardUndergroundPodcast.com and click the Ask Fritz button.

Today's Guest:

Dr. Markus Keller is a Distinguished Professor in Viticulture at Washington State University, a renowned viticulture researcher, and the author of The Science of Grapevines – a top reference book in the industry. He is also the Project Director for the seven-institution High Resolution Vineyard Nutrient Management Project.

Connect with Markus:

· Dr. Markus Keller - WSU Research & Publications - https://wine.wsu.edu/faculty/markus-keller/

· High Resolution Vineyard Nutrient Management Project - https://highresvineyardnutrition.com

· Order The Science of Grapevines 4th Edition - https://a.co/d/00UpfN1f

· Listen to the HiRes Vineyard Nutrition Podcast - https://highresvineyardnutrition.com/podcast/

Episode Sponsor:

Today's episode was brought to you by Bahco Tools and Shellt Grow Tubes.

Thank you to Bahco Tools for sponsoring today's episode. As innovators for more than 165 years, Bahco has introduced the most advanced tools in the world, and Bahco products are manufactured in factories across Europe. I exclusively prune with the Bahco ERGO™ Bypass Secateurs with Elastomer Coated Fixed Handle (size medium). Visit www.bahco.com/int_en to find a dealer near you to get the best pruning tools on the market, along with loppers, hedging tools, cutting blades, files, and more.

Thank you to Shellt Grow Tubes for sponsoring today's episode. Shellt makes the ultimate grow tubes for grape vines and orchard trees. Their grow tubes are reusable, recyclable, and designed to grow with your vineyard by clicking together for taller or wider coverage. I exclusively recommend Shellt Grow Tubes to the growers I work with. Visit https://www.shellt.us/ and order with the code UNDERGROUND to save 15% off all online orders, plus free shipping within the continental United States.

Episode Credits

If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com. Let them know we sent you.

How many incredible grape varieties are hiding in plain sight — simply because they don't fit the modern wine script? We dig into that question in this episode with Jenny and Scott Schultz of Sonoma's Jolie-Laide Wines, a winery built around chasing the unfamiliar and turning "pretty ugly" grapes into seriously compelling wines.

We trace how Jenny and Scott's very different paths collided into a shared philosophy: start with great farming, intervene as little as possible, and let each site and vintage tell its own story. For vineyard owners and operators, the conversation opens up a practical discussion about risk, opportunity, and how alternative varieties can make both agronomic and economic sense.

We also get inside their cellar to talk about what "minimal intervention" really means — early picking for natural acidity, whole-cluster fermentations, neutral barrels and concrete, and a deliberate refusal to erase vintage character. Even the labels change every year, reinforcing the idea that wine is an agricultural product, not a factory formula.

The discussion dives into grapes like Melon de Bourgogne, Trousseau Gris, Scheurebe, and Mondeuse Noir, unpacking how they grow, how they're vinified, and why they deserve a bigger spotlight. It's a conversation about curiosity, craft, and what becomes possible when we stop playing it safe with varieties.

In this episode, you will hear:

• Why Jolie-Laide focuses on rare and overlooked grape varieties

• Working with growers to graft or plant unconventional grapes

• Minimal intervention winemaking and whole-cluster fermentations

• Farming considerations for low-alcohol, high-acid styles

• Blending, carbonic fermentation, and managing tannin and structure

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Resources:

Have a vineyard question? Go to VineyardUndergroundPodcast.com and click the Ask Fritz button.

Come grow with Fritz through https://www.virtualviticultureacademy.com! Save $75 off your first year of membership with the code Underground at checkout.

Today's Guest:

Jenny and Scott Schultz are the founders and winemakers for the acclaimed Jolie-Laide Winery in Sonoma, California.

Connect with Jenny and Scott:

https://jolielaidewines.com/

https://www.instagram.com/jolielaidewines

https://www.facebook.com/jolielaidewines/

Episode Sponsor:

Today's episode was brought to you by Vintner's Vault and Shellt Grow Tubes.

Thank you to Vintner's Vault for sponsoring today's episode! Vintner's Vault is the #1 winery equipment company that I recommend to my growers, who are also winemakers. Visit TheVintnerVault.com and use the code UNDERGROUND5 (all caps) to save 5% off of your online order, or mention that you heard about them on the Vineyard Underground podcast when contacting them for a larger piece of equipment, consulting services, or turn-key packages, and they will provide a podcast listener discount for you.

Thank you to Shellt Grow Tubes for sponsoring today's episode. Shellt makes the ultimate grow tubes for grape vines and orchard trees. Their grow tubes are reusable, recyclable, and designed to grow with your vineyard by clicking together for taller or wider coverage. I exclusively recommend Shellt Grow Tubes to the growers I work with. Visit https://www.shellt.us/ and order with the code UNDERGROUND to save 15% off all online orders, plus free shipping within the continental United States.

Episode Credits

If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com. Let them know we sent you.

Some of the world's most valuable vineyard lessons are rooted in vines that predate modern viticulture. In this conversation, we are joined by Dr. Laura Catena to explore Argentina's remarkable legacy of old, ungrafted vines and what they reveal about vine genetics, site expression, and long-term resilience.

Drawing on her experience, Dr. Catena explains why phylloxera never devastated many Argentine vineyards and how this unique history allowed ancient vine material to survive. The discussion dives into massale selection from old vines, highlighting why genetic diversity matters — especially as vineyard owners contend with climate stress, disease pressure, and the limits of clonal uniformity.

We also examine the role of Argentina's high-altitude growing regions and how elevation influences vine physiology, flavor development, and vineyard health. These extreme sites have become a living laboratory for research, helping match plant material to specific conditions and improving long-term vineyard performance.

Dr. Catena shares information from the Catena Institute of Wine's ongoing research and how data-driven approaches can elevate both vineyard decisions and wine quality. For growers managing heritage blocks or considering massale selection in new plantings, this episode offers a compelling blend of history, science, and practical guidance — showing how preserving the past can be a powerful strategy for building the vineyards of the future.

In this episode, you will hear:

• Why Argentina has some of the world's oldest ungrafted vineyards

• The role of massale selection in preserving genetic diversity

• How old vines contribute to resilience and site expression

• The impact of altitude and climate on vine health and quality

• Applying research-driven insights to modern vineyard management

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Resources:

Come grow with Fritz through https://www.virtualviticultureacademy.com! Save $75 off your first year of membership with the code Underground at checkout.

Have a vineyard question? Go to VineyardUndergroundPodcast.com and click the Ask Fritz button.

Today's Guest:

Dr. Laura Catena is a Harvard University graduate with a Medical Doctor degree from Stanford University. She is a fourth-generation Argentine vintner at the award-winning Bodega Catena Zapata, a passionate vineyard researcher, a practicing part-time emergency medicine physician, and an author. And, in 1995, she founded the Catena Institute of Wine with the vision of making Argentine wines that could stand with the best wines in the world.

Bodega Catena Zapata:

• Website - https://catenazapata.com/

• Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/catenawines/

• YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/CatenaMalbec

Catena Institute of Wine:

• Website - https://www.catenainstitute.com/

• X - https://x.com/CatenaScience

Dr Laura Catena:

• Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/lauracatenamd/

• LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-laura-catena-054987195/

• Books - https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B005H53YWY?ccs_id=4d0248ba-4f00-4c70-b68f-daf91c441439

Episode Sponsor:

Today's episode was brought to you by Sunridge Nurseries and Bahco.

Thank you to Sunridge Nurseries for sponsoring today's episode. Sunridge Nurseries is the exclusive nursery sponsor of the Vineyard Underground podcast. They have been a family-owned company for over 45 years, and their dedicated focus on quality and consistency has grown them into the largest supplier of grapevines in both North and South America and the industry leader in nursery standards. Visit them today at SunridgeNurseries.com and mention the code Underground to receive a podcast listener discount on your vine order.

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Episode Credits

If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com. Let them know we sent you.

Planting a vineyard is a major investment, and the decisions made before the first vine goes into the ground can determine long-term success or costly failure. In this episode, Fritz sits down with renowned viticulture expert Dr. Mark Greenspan to unpack the most common red flags vineyard owners and operators should watch for when planning a new planting.

Drawing on more than three decades of scientific research and hands-on field experience, Dr. Greenspan explains why many vineyard problems originate long before planting day. Fritz and Dr. Greenspan also discuss the dangers of relying on assumptions or neighboring vineyard performance instead of site-specific data and professional evaluation.

Listeners will learn why thorough pre-plant assessments — including soil testing, climate analysis, and thoughtful rootstock and variety selection — are essential risk management tools rather than optional steps. This episode is especially valuable for growers considering new vineyard development, replanting existing blocks, or expanding acreage. By understanding these early warning signs, listeners can make more informed decisions, avoid expensive mistakes, and set their vineyards up for sustainable productivity and profitability.

In this episode, you will hear:

• Common red flags that signal potential vineyard failure before planting

• Why site-specific soil and climate data matter more than assumptions

• Risks of poor variety and rootstock selection

• The long-term cost of cutting corners during vineyard planning

• Practical steps to reduce risk and improve vineyard performance

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Resources:

Register for Fritz's FREE live virtual pruning event, Snip Happens: Pruning Mistakes & Fixes on January 29th at noon Central, and make sure you and your team can spot, fix, and avoid pruning mistakes this season.

If you're starting a vineyard or thinking about starting a vineyard, visit VirtualViticulureAcademy.com/growsmart to get Fritz's online Prospective Winegrape Grower Course to help you get your vineyard planned and planted correctly from the start. Use the code PODCAST at checkout to save $89.00 as a thank you for being a podcast listener.

If you have questions about today's episode or ideas for future episodes, go to VineyardUndergroundPodcast.com and click the Ask Fritz button.

Today's Guest:

Mark Greenspan is a viticulture expert with 3 decades of scientific, technical, and field experience. He is a Certified Crop Advisor (CCA), Certified Professional Agronomist (CPAg), and licensed Pest Control Advisor (PCA) in California and the founder of Advanced Viticulture, a leading vineyard services company in California.

Learn more about Advanced Viticulture or connect with Mark:

https://advancedvit.com/

https://www.instagram.com/advanced_viticulture/

Episode Sponsor:

Today's episode was brought to you by HydroGeo Environmental and Bahco Tools.

Thank you to HydroGeo Environmental for sponsoring today's episode. For over 20 years, Bubba Beasley and his team have helped vineyard growers with site assessments, mapping, soil and groundwater evaluations, and optimal vineyard layouts. Using the latest technology and industry expertise, HydroGeo brings clarity to even the most complex landscapes. Visit HydroGeoEnvironmental.com and mention the Vineyard Underground podcast for a special discount on your service.

Thank you to Bahco Tools for sponsoring today's episode. As innovators for more than 165 years, Bahco has introduced the most advanced tools in the world, and Bahco products are manufactured in factories across Europe. I exclusively prune with the Bahco ERGO™ Bypass Secateurs with Elastomer Coated Fixed Handle (size medium). Visit www.bahco.com/int_en to find a dealer near you to get the best pruning tools on the market, along with loppers, hedging tools, cutting blades, files, and more.

Episode Credits

If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com. Let them know we sent you.