How Paul’s vision of the cross calls the church to resist domineering power structures and create a radically different community rooted in the kingdom of God. In this fifth installment of the Exile Series, Mike Erre and special guest Dr. Timothy Gombis unpack a deeply political and countercultural lens for following Jesus, grounding the conversation in Paul’s letters and the gospel of Mark.

Hear how our identity as the church reorients our political posture—not toward partisan divides, but toward the radical surrender, hospitality, and justice modeled by the crucified Christ. This wide-ranging conversation tackles nationalism, immigration, abortion, the misuse of Romans 13, the myth of a “Christian nation,” and the idolatry of power in both American culture and the evangelical church.

Key Takeaways: • Politics as the Expression of Discipleship – Why Paul’s gospel is entirely political—but not in the way we think. The church is a political body under the lordship of Jesus. • The Cross as Political Suicide and Kingdom Triumph – Cruciformity (living in the shape of the cross) is not a private spirituality but a public, political resistance to domination, exploitation, and hierarchy. • Rejecting Empire Loyalties – How aligning Christianity with political parties or nationalism leads to idolatry, and why liberal/conservative labels distort the gospel's political implications. • Political Engagement ≠ Party Politics – Practical ways the church can embody Jesus’ politics today: from advocating for immigration reform to welcoming marginalized communities. • Interrogating the Pro-Life Identity – Gombis challenges a one-issue approach to Christian ethics by re-centering compassion, justice, and sustained action through the local church rather than political coercion.

Guest Highlights: Dr. Timothy Gombis – Pauline scholar, professor at Grand Rapids Theological Seminary, and creator of the blog “Faith Improvised.” Gombis brings deep expertise on Paul’s political theology and gospel ethics, particularly around the themes of empire, identity, and cross-shaped living. His fresh reading of Mark and Paul's letters calls us to a bold reimagining of what it means to follow Jesus in the public square.

Resources Mentioned: • Faith Improvised Blog – faithimprovised.blogspot.com • Michael Gorman – Inhabiting the Cruciform God – [Link] • Michael Gorman – Reading Paul – [Link] • Sylvia Keesmaat & Brian Walsh – Romans Disarmed – [Link] • Scot McKnight – Reading Romans Backwards – [Link] • Ephesians: The Drama of Ephesians by Tim Gombis – [Link] • Mark 4: The Parable of the Soils – Reimagined as a critique of superficial discipleship and misuse of Jesus’ message

Join us in this vital conversation as we rethink what it means to be the Church in exile—a community shaped not by cultural battles or fear, but by radical love, justice, and the Lordship of the crucified Christ.

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How can Jesus-followers respond to tragedies like the mass shootings in El Paso and Dayton in faithful, transformative ways? In this raw and reflective episode, Mike Erre, Bonnie, and Tim wrestle honestly with their grief, anger, and frustration in the wake of yet another national tragedy. They push back on empty Christian clichés, challenge politically entrenched responses, and instead offer a vision for lament, action, and reconciliation that reflects the way of Jesus—not American partisanship.

This critical conversation touches on how the church must reject passivity and empty platitudes, and instead embrace deep repentance, courageous lament, and a prophetic presence in the world. Drawing from Scripture, painful personal experiences, and the Sermon on the Mount, the episode explores how to be light in the darkness without becoming a mirror of the world’s rage and polarization.

Key Takeaways: • Reclaiming Lament – Why biblical lament is not passive grief, but honest truth-telling rooted in the character of God and the hope of restoration. • Rejecting Cliché Responses – The danger of “thoughts and prayers” when they replace meaningful action and solidarity. • Nonpartisan Discipleship – Why the church must be a place where people from all political viewpoints can sit under the lordship of Jesus. • Enemy Love in Action – What it means to love your enemy without condoning injustice, and how this calls the church to speak boldly against white nationalism and all forms of hate. • The Church as Reconciling Community – Creating spaces for repentance, listening, and redemptive conversations that resist the fracturing of our culture.

Notable Quotes: “There’s something deeply hypocritical about praying for a problem you are unwilling to resolve.” “If gun owners are willing to fight to save one unborn child, shouldn’t we be willing to give up something if it could save even one life in a mass shooting?”

Resources Mentioned: • Miroslav Volf – Reflections on confronting evil with actions, not only prayer • Dallas Willard – Teachings on “joyful non-compliance” and discipleship • Sermon on the Mount – Matthew 5-7 • James 1:27 – “Religion that God our Father accepts as pure…”

This episode is a sobering yet hopeful reminder that we can—and must—live into a better story. Join the ongoing dialogue about how to embody Jesus’s love in a divided world. Subscribe, leave a review, and follow Voxology on your favorite platform or social media channel to continue the conversation.

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A deep dive into how interpreting scripture through a 21st-century lens can distort its original context and nuance, using the story of the Syrophoenician woman in Matthew 15 as a prime example. Mike, Bonnie, and Tim engage in a thoughtful and expansive conversation about what happens when modern theological frameworks—particularly around gender, power, and sexuality—are retroactively applied to ancient texts, and what that means for affirming theology, biblical authority, and faithful improvisation in today’s culture wars.

In this powerful episode, the team wrestles with the tension between empathy-fueled transformation and faithful biblical interpretation, and what it means to navigate political outrage, the collapse of evangelical purity culture, and the ongoing conversation around affirming LGBTQ+ theology.

Key Takeaways: • Accurate Exegesis Matters – Why using the Syrophoenician woman as a text to depict Jesus as prejudiced misses the literary, historical, and rabbinical context of the passage. • Formation Over Outcomes – How our political and ethical posture as Christians needs to focus on internal transformation rather than managing public behaviors or outrage quotas. • Spiritual Discernment and New Movement – Exploring the possibility that something new is happening through the Spirit in the LGBTQ+ conversation and the church’s evolving understanding. • Responsible Affirmation – If you're going to become theologically affirming, anchoring your views in sound scriptural interpretation benefits everyone—especially the marginalized communities theology intends to protect. • Purity Culture and Moralism – Reflecting on the demise of 90s-era evangelicalism and why non-redemptive moralism has left a legacy of confusion and trauma in matters of sexuality. • Contextual Wisdom – Why understanding context, genre, and historical nuance is crucial when building a theology rooted in justice and grace.

Resources Mentioned: • Sarah Bessie's Blog – sarahbessey.com • Acts 15 – The Council of Jerusalem and the Spirit’s new movement • Matthew 15:21–28 – The Syrophoenician/Canaanite Woman • Mark 7:24–30 – Alternate account of the same encounter • N.T. Wright – Insights on biblical narrative and improvisation • Joshua Harris – Author of I Kissed Dating Goodbye and the conversation surrounding purity culture • Romans Disarmed by Sylvia Keesmaat & Brian Walsh – [Link to Book] • Faith Improvised Podcast by Tim Gombis – [Link to Podcast]

Guest Highlights: No formal guest, but features robust theological insights from regular co-host Bonnie, particularly her academic background in exegesis and gender studies—offering a masterclass in responsible biblical interpretation.

Listener Call to Action: This episode invites LGBTQ+ Christian listeners and allies to share how faithful biblical engagement has (or hasn’t) felt helpful, liberating, or marginalizing. We’d love to hear from you as we continue building a theological ecosystem rooted in justice, truth, and grace. Subscribe, leave a review, and join the Voxology conversation.

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How seeing the book of Romans through the lens of justice, grief, and empire can radically reshape our faith and community. In their compelling conversation with Mike, Brian Walsh and Sylvia Keesmaat discuss their book "Romans Disarmed," a subversive and creative take on Paul’s epistle that blends biblical exegesis with lament, narrative fiction, and political reflection.

Through an intentional hermeneutic of sorrow, Walsh and Keesmaat challenge listeners to reimagine salvation, justice, and discipleship not as abstract theological constructs, but as embodied, communal realities shaped in resistance to empire. Drawing from their real-life experience building an intentional Christian community on a permaculture farm in Canada—and a deep-seated commitment to the marginalized—they unravel the ways Romans has been weaponized in political and theological battles, and propose a reading that centers liberation, justice, and the radical love of Jesus.

Key Takeaways: • Reclaiming Romans from Empire and Individualism – How Paul’s epistle, long used to justify nationalist or exclusionary theology, actually challenges imperial power and promotes a justice-shaped gospel. • Scripture as Resistance – Recovering the communal, narrative, and justice-rooted dimensions of the Bible beyond doctrinal proof-texting and theological systems. • A Hermeneutic of Sorrow – How entering scripture through places of grief, like the loss of a friend or systemic injustice, can activate faithful, compassionate readings. • Salvation as Communal Liberation – Moving beyond personal piety to understand salvation as holistic freedom—economic, social, and relational—for the oppressed. • Sexuality and the Roman World – Interrogating Romans 1 in its historical context, including how Paul's concerns about exploitative systems differ from modern ideas around orientation. • Lament as Theological Praxis – The importance of grief, creation care, and embodied life in shaping a Christian ethic worthy of Jesus.

Guest Highlights: Brian Walsh & Sylvia Keesmaat – Scholars and activists, authors of "Colossians Remixed" and "Romans Disarmed." They live on a permaculture farm, model intentional community, and call for the church to rediscover its prophetic imagination and justice-first mission in a post-Christendom age.

Resources Mentioned: • Romans Disarmed by Brian Walsh & Sylvia Keesmaat – Buy the book • Colossians Remixed – Link • Tim Gombis on Hermeneutics – Past Voxology episode • The Patient Ferment of the Early Church by Alan Kreider • School of Prophets (NT Wright View of Scripture) – Ongoing thought partnership mentioned by Sylvia

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How the biblical command to love the stranger challenges political assumptions, reshapes our view of immigration, and offers a new path forward. Mike, Tim, and Bonnie launch the Immigration Series by welcoming Matthew Soerens, author of “Welcoming the Stranger” and U.S. Director of Church Mobilization with World Relief, for a thoughtful, honest, and compassionate discussion at the intersection of faith, politics, and immigration.

Matthew breaks down decades of policy confusion and popular misconceptions while calling Christians back to foundational biblical truths. Drawing from Scripture and real-life examples, this episode explores what it means to love our neighbors—especially when they come from different places—and why it’s essential for the church to lead in conversations around immigration, justice, and national policy.

Key Takeaways: • Biblical Foundations for Immigration – Scripture is filled with stories of migration and commands to protect and care for the foreigner, which must shape Christian attitudes and responses to modern immigration. • Separating Fact from Fear – Immigration myths debunked: most asylum seekers are not lawbreakers, and refugees undergo the most rigorous vetting process of any group entering the U.S. • Refugees, Asylum Seekers, and Immigrants—What’s the Difference? – Understanding critical distinctions between immigration categories and why it matters legally and compassionately. • A Better Way Forward – Creating immigration policies that are both just and compassionate: secure borders, legal pathways, and restitution-based legalization for undocumented immigrants already here. • The Church’s Unique Role – Why this is not just a political issue, but a discipleship issue rooted in hospitality, justice, and the mission of Jesus.

Guest Highlights: Matthew Soerens – U.S. Director of Church Mobilization at World Relief and co-author of Welcoming the Stranger. Matthew shares how his work with immigrants and refugees shaped his understanding of the Bible’s mandate to love the stranger and encouraged churches to reframe the immigration conversation as a gospel opportunity.

Resources Mentioned: • Welcoming the Stranger by Matthew Soerens and Jenny Yang – [Link] • Evangelical Immigration Table – evangelicalimmigrationtable.com • World Relief – worldrelief.org • Thinking Biblically About Immigrants and Immigration Reform – Free eBook – [Link]

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Want to know how to interpret the Bible with humility and maturity in a fractured and polarized culture? This deep-dive conversation between Mike Erre, Tim Stafford, Bonnie, and returning guest Tim Gombis continues the “Misunderstanding the Bible” series by peeling back the layers on hermeneutics, historical assumptions, interpretive power dynamics, and the posture Christians bring to Scripture.

The episode kicks off with an honest reflection on listener feedback about tone and disdain when critiquing political and theological stances—offering a real-time example of the humility and self-critique Tim Gombis later emphasizes as vital to responsible interpretation.

They then unfold a richer vision of reading the Bible—not as a storehouse of propositional truth or ammunition for proving others wrong, but as an invitation to be mastered by the text, to date it (i.e., live with it over time), and to discern its logic through community, cross, and new creation lenses.

Key Takeaways: • Rethinking Hermeneutics – Why “sound hermeneutics” alone can’t guarantee truthful or faithful readings of Scripture, and how that too often reinforces existing power structures. • Reading as Formation, Not Control – How interpretive posture—not just methodology—determines whether we’re being shaped by the Bible or using it to control others. • Scripture as Relationship – Tim Gombis introduces the idea of “dating the text,” encouraging long-term, immersive reading to let Scripture reveal its shape. • Welcoming the Tension of Disagreement – How church leaders can hold space for unresolved tension around issues like sexuality, while remaining faithful to Jesus' call for unity, humility, and welcome. • Using the Bible Without Weaponizing It – Addressing the damage done when Scripture is used to enforce ideology rather than facilitate community discernment.

Guest Highlights: Dr. Tim Gombis – New Testament scholar and Professor at Grand Rapids Theological Seminary. Known for his work on Paul, the New Testament, and the ethics of interpretation, Tim brings incisive insight and disarming humility. He challenges listeners to move beyond modernist methods and into a deeper, community-shaped reading of Scripture that is faithful to both text and Spirit.

Resources Mentioned: • Richard Hays' Model – Community, Cross, and New Creation framework for biblical ethics. • Kevin Vanhoozer – Essay in Evangelical Futures on interpretive approaches. • Romans 1–2 and 14–15 – How Paul’s rhetorical flow shapes our ethics and humility. • Church Discipline in 1 Corinthians 5 – Differentiating destructive behavior from personal journeys. • Gospels (especially Matthew and Mark) – Drawing insight from Jesus’ approach to judgment, hospitality, and discernment. • N.T. Wright – The Bible as a unified story told through genre-rich literature.

Find yourself grappling with how to interpret Scripture in our polarized world? Whether dealing with hard conversations around sexuality, church unity, or biblical authority, this episode offers a framework of humility, curiosity, and transformation.

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How embracing spiritual homelessness can lead to deeper maturity, richer community, and a more authentic vision of Jesus. In this deeply personal and wide-ranging conversation, Mike Erre, Tim Stafford, and Bonnie dive into the emails and reflections flowing from their recent “Spiritually Homeless” and “Future of the Church” conversations. Together, they unpack tough theological questions, critiques about the direction of the show, challenges in church culture, and moments of clarity about why spiritual tension may actually be a gift.

This isn’t just a mailbag—it’s a soul-searching conversation about making space at the table for spiritual wanderers, the marginalized, and those disillusioned by religious systems that fail to reflect Jesus. From deconstruction fatigue to gender roles in ministry, from megachurch questions to forgiveness journeys, this episode is a snapshot of a diverse and longing community seeking to build something new—together.

Key Takeaways: • Spiritual Homelessness as Growth – Why questioning, discomfort, and feeling adrift spiritually can invite deeper relationship with Jesus and others. • Inclusivity and Justice in Church Leadership – How unclear or harmful stances on women in ministry directly impact not just individuals but entire congregations. • Forgiveness as a Path to Community – A powerful testimony on how personal healing after church hurt created space to re-engage faith and community without bitterness. • Holding Tension Well – The team discusses how to balance critique with grace, truth with love, and tradition with transformation. • Redefining Church – Honest reflections on small group dynamics, megachurch systems, and how house churches or new forms might open room for hard conversations that foster belonging. • Making Jesus Beautiful – Responding to feedback about the tone of recent episodes and the ongoing desire to point everything—critique included—toward the real Jesus.

Quotes Worth Noting: • “True spiritual maturity is being at peace with people no matter where they're at. Even if you vehemently disagree, they're still worthy of dignity, respect, and love.” • “If our spiritual homelessness causes others to feel alienated, that’s not growth—it’s gatekeeping in new clothes.” • “Forgiveness wasn’t about them—it was about clearing my soul enough so I could hear God again.”

Resources Mentioned: • Episode 195 – “Spiritually Homeless” • “The Patient Ferment of the Early Church” by Alan Kreider • “Resident Aliens” by Stanley Hauerwas and William Willimon • Past “Future of the Church” conversations with Tim Gombis, Sky Jethani, Andy Crouch, and Rick • Zenos Christian Fellowship model – [Link to learn more about their house church discipleship structure]

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Recovering Paul’s radical gospel for today’s church, Mike Erre sits down with Pauline scholar Dr. Timothy Gombis for an honest and theologically rich conversation that peels back cultural assumptions and reexamines the complexities—and power—of Paul’s letters. From ancient household codes to modern questions about gender, race, power, and sexuality, Mike and Dr. Gombis explore how Paul’s vision of Christ-shaped community invites us into a radically inclusive, justice-seeking, cruciform way of life.

Key Takeaways: • Reframing Paul’s Letters – How misreadings shaped by evangelical subcultures distort Paul’s intent on topics like women, sex, slavery, and sin. • Household Codes as Subversion – Understanding how Paul uses Roman structures not to uphold, but to radically counter, systems of power and honor through a Jesus-centered ethic. • Cross-Shaped Discipleship – How Philippians 2 models a life of relinquishing privilege and embracing others in humility, community, and solidarity. • White Privilege and Christlikeness – How a posture of listening, repentance, and mutuality allows privileged Christians to walk in the way of Christ's self-emptying love. • Hospitality over Judgment – Why the gospel’s call to LGBTQ+ individuals must begin with deep welcome, shared burden-bearing, and long-term relational faithfulness—not assumptions or demands. • Redefining Power in the Church – Exploring why Paul, if alive today, would likely be bewildered by large, production-oriented churches and how they contradict his vision of humble, table-sharing communities.

Guest Highlight: Dr. Timothy Gombis – A New Testament scholar and author of “Paul: A Guide for the Perplexed” and “The Drama of Ephesians.” Tim brings scholarly depth and pastoral wisdom to help the modern church rediscover Paul’s radical, Christ-centered message. His reflections challenge listeners to approach Scripture with fresh eyes and courageous faithfulness.

Resources Mentioned: • Paul: A Guide for the Perplexed by Timothy Gombis – [Link] • The Drama of Ephesians by Timothy Gombis – [Link] • “Faith Improvised” podcast by Tim Gombis – [Link] • Michael Gorman's scholarship on cruciformity – [Link] • “Family Values and the Rise of the Christian Right” – [Link] • Philippians 2:5-11 and 2 Corinthians 4:7-12 – Key Scripture • Timothy Gombis's blog archive and GRTS SoundCloud teaching library – [Link]

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How do we rediscover the bold, persistent faith that moves God to act? In this special bonus episode, Mike Erre shares a powerful message on prayer originally delivered as a sermon—highlighting Jesus' teaching in Luke 11 about “shameless audacity” and its role in how we approach God. With encouragement from Tim Stafford, this episode revisits Mike’s prior work as a teaching pastor to dive deeper into how chutzpah—or bold, shameless persistence—is validated and encouraged by Jesus himself.

This thoughtful exploration challenges the idea that prayer is merely a religious exercise. Instead, Mike argues it is a powerful invitation to partner with God in shaping the world. By walking through Luke’s gospel and highlighting five remarkable stories of radical faith, he shows how outrageous persistence and unfiltered honesty in prayer are not just acceptable—they’re expected. Whether you’re feeling lost in prayer or longing to re-engage with God more authentically, this episode is a genuine call back to honest, transformative communion with the divine.

Key Takeaways: • Bold Prayer Matters – Jesus encourages persistent, shameless audacity in prayer, not polite hesitation. • God Responds to Chutzpah – From a midnight bread request to healing interruptions, the Gospels are full of examples where bold faith moved Jesus to act. • Prayer as Partnership – The biblical narrative constantly points to God inviting us into cooperation, not passive observation. • We Have Not Because We Ask Not – Sometimes we don’t receive simply because we don’t ask boldly or at all. • It's About Who We're Talking To – The goal isn’t to manipulate God with perfect words, but to fully trust the goodness of the Father.

Resources Mentioned: • Luke 11 – The parable of the midnight requester and Jesus’ model prayer. • Luke 5, 7, 8, 18 – Examples of people practicing prayer and faith with shameless persistence. • James 4:2 – “You do not have because you do not ask.” • Genesis 18 – Abraham negotiating with God over Sodom. • 2 Kings 20 – Hezekiah’s faithful prayer and God’s merciful response. • Other references: Exodus, Jeremiah, Ezekiel

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How does the church navigate a shifting cultural and theological landscape in the next 20 years? In this landmark 200th episode—affectionately dubbed “Bruce”—Mike and Tim are joined by longtime friend and thought leader Skye Jethani (Holy Post, With God Daily) to explore the future of Christianity in America. With Skye’s background in pastoral ministry, publishing, and theological reflection, this conversation dives deep into how the church is evolving amidst political polarization, disillusionment with institutions, and the rise of digital influence.

Mike and Skye unpack where traditional evangelicalism is heading, the resurgence of both progressive theology and fundamentalist reactions, and how the church might reclaim its relevance outside institutional structures. They also reflect on parenting, discipleship, political entanglement, and fostering wisdom over certainty in an era of endless foreground decisions.

Key Takeaways: • Evangelicalism Is Shifting – Despite the outward success of conservative evangelical institutions, the theological convictions of younger churchgoers are aligning more with progressive Christianity. • The Rise of Fundamentalism on Both Ends – Cultural fragmentation and digital targeting are accelerating fundamentalist movements on both the right and left, leaving little space for thoughtful middle-ground discipleship. • Post-Cold War Christianity Requires Discernment – The church must move beyond ‘us vs. them’ culture-war mentalities and learn how to live wisely—embracing complexity over clarity. • Why Some Are Moving Past the Church – Disillusionment with power-driven churches and institutional failures is leading many to seek spiritual growth outside formal religious structures. • Hope for the Future Church – A remnant centered on Jesus, empowered by rest and love, and driven by the actual mission of God is quietly forming “outside the spotlight,” echoing leaders like Dallas Willard and others who simply “smelled like Jesus.”

Guest Highlights: Skye Jethani – Co-host of the Holy Post podcast and curator of the “With God Daily” devotional, Skye reflects on his decades of ministry experience to offer a systemic lens for understanding where American Christianity is going—and what must change.

Resources Mentioned: • With God Daily Devotional App – withgoddaily.com • Upcoming Book – “What If Jesus Was Serious?” (Moody Publishers) • The Holy Post Podcast – holypost.com • Dallas Willard – Teacher and author of The Divine Conspiracy • John Walton's Old Testament scholarship • Genesis 1, The Sermon on the Mount, and Parable of the Wheat and Weeds – Explored in the context of a wisdom-driven view of Scripture

Look forward to more conversations tackling the biggest questions about faith, culture, theology, and the mission of Jesus.

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