Nas often feels like she’s walking on eggshells on this show; she has to be honest with men but also keep them engaged and not annoy them so much that they tune out of the show, and these conversations, altogether. Dan and Nas try to figure out this delicate balance.

We also hear more from Kasia Urbaniak, the former Taoist Nun, former Dominatrix and women’s power coach who told us how women can ask for what they want a few weeks ago. Kasia fills us in on the ways in which women silence each other in a bid to survive and how telling a man the truth is an act of love.

Guest: Kasia Urbaniak , women’s power and influence coach and founder of The Academy https://www.kasiaurbaniak.com/

Host and producer: Nas aka Nastaran Tavakoli-Far

Co-host: Daniel Carroll

Co-producers: Sam Baker and Jonathan Blackwell

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Former Gender Knot episode: How can men best help feminism? https://radiopublic.com/the-gender-knot-Wk23py/ep/s1!b623b

White Fragility: Why it’s so hard for white people to talk about racism https://robindiangelo.com/ and New Yorker essay https://bit.ly/2JNOEdj

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