This episode is all about rewiring ourselves.

In this episode, I sit down with mind shifter and meditation coach Jamie Graber for the meditation conversation I’ve always wanted but never heard: a true back-to-basics, “start at square one” guide to what meditation actually is and how it rewires us as parents and people. I have always wanted someone to talk to me about meditation in the most basic, approachable way. She breaks it down and explains how the practice of meditation reshapes the nervous system, helps us see our thoughts instead of being ruled by them, and softens our reflexive thoughts and reactions (this is especially in motherhood when we find ourselves triggered or reactive to things we aren’t even aware of). 

We each share our own before/after moments, including how meditation gave us perspective on the stories running in the background of our minds. If you’re curious about meditation but feel intimidated or confused - or if you’re like me, skeptical - then this is your starting point.

You can also be guided by Jamie through her app Shift with Jamie.

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Many parents feel it: that the current education system doesn’t fully reflect how kids actually learn. We’re craving something more aligned, more human, and more empowering, a model where children feel engaged, capable, and genuinely excited to learn because the experience itself is meaningful.

I love my girls’ school and feel privileged to have been able to choose it. But I also feel there’s often a disconnect between what any current school teaches and what kids actually need to thrive in real life: confidence, communication, social skills, executive functioning, curiosity, and a true love of learning.

That curiosity is what led me to learn more about Alpha School. This week I am joined by its co-founder, MacKenzie Price, who started Alpha after watching her own daughters lose their love of learning early in elementary school, and decided to create a school that brought it back.

Alpha uses Time-Back Learning, an approach where AI customizes academics to each child’s level. Core academics are completed in about two hours a day, which opens up the rest of the school day to what children truly need - time to explore interests, build real-world skills, collaborate, create, and grow at their own pace.

In this episode, MacKenzie and I talk about why the legacy model is failing so many kids, what truly prepares children for life, how personalized pathways can unlock potential we’ve never tapped into, and what school could look like when we design it around how children actually learn.

This conversation is not about choosing a school, it’s about reimagining an entire system. It’s about believing that kids deserve environments where they grow, stretch, collaborate, problem-solve, and discover their own agency. If you’ve ever felt like something about school just isn’t working… this episode will feel really exciting and will give a glimpse into what education could really become.

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This episode is one that I have been waiting to release, because it introduces one of the the most meaningful experience I've ever had.

Last spring, I experienced a guided psychedelic journey with James Gangemi and Zev Eisenberg, the couple behind Heart Openers. They are not only gifted guides individually, but their partnership, the way they hold space together, and the energy they bring as a couple is truly remarkable. You feel safe, supported, and seen in a way I can only describe as being "held." That safety became the foundation for the most transformative experience I've ever had.

I wanted this episode to talk about the neuroplasticity that occurs on a "journey" and the huge rewiring opportunity it gives us in the way we think. I also wanted it to help clarify the many misnomers around a psychedelic journey. Every "journey" is different and everyone experiences them differently. This journey was not ayahuasca. It didn't feel like I was out of control, I didn't feel sick, it felt gentle, grounding and deep. It was about sitting with myself, not escaping. Seeing what's been inside all along with the support of plant medicines and with guides who knew exactly how to hold the emotional and spiritual container for that to happen.

In this episode you'll be introduced to the process, learn the purpose of it all and really get a glimpse into how special Zev and James are. It feels like the start of so much more that really touches on the truest expression of what this podcast has always been about: understanding where we "didn't turn out OK" and discovering what becomes possible when we finally turn toward those areas with understanding and love.

James and Zev are extraordinary guides, an extraordinary couple and extraordinary humans. I'm so honored and excited to share this conversation - and this part of my story - with you.

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In this episode I sit down with Brynn Putnam and Kevin Thau for a conversation about ambition, reinvention, blended family life, and what it really means to build connection at home.

Brynn is the entrepreneur behind Mirror - the interactive fitness company acquired by Lululemon - and now the creator of The Board, a new tool designed to help families stay connected in a tech-saturated world. A former professional ballerina and mom of two (and step-mom of three), Brynn brings a unique blend of creativity, discipline, and a deep belief in designing for presence.

Her husband, Kevin Thau, is a longtime tech leader and investor known for helping scale companies like Twitter and Vine. As a dad to three daughters and partner in raising a blended family of five kids, he brings thoughtful perspective on technology, growth, identity, and parenting across every age and stage.

We talk about:

The inspiration behind The Board and using tech to bring families together, not pull them apart

Parenting a blended family with kids ranging from toddler to college-aged

Perfectionism, identity shifts, and what entrepreneurship teaches us about raising humans

Reclaiming family quality time in a world that moves fast and pulls our attention everywhere

Letting go of who we thought we had to be in order to show up to parenting - and life - more fully

And in true WDTOOK fashion, we explore where Brynn and Kevin feel they “didn’t turn out ok,” how those patterns show up in parenting, and what they’re doing to rewrite them - including the family mantra: be nice, try hard, have fun.

This is a conversation about building things - companies, families, and new ways of being - and remembering that the most meaningful things we build happen at home.

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Rebecca Minkoff is a designer, founder, best-selling author of Fearless, co-founder of the Female Founder Collective, host of Superwomen with Rebecca Minkoff, and mom of four.

In this episode, Rebecca opens up about what it really took to build her vision - from hand-sewing pieces in her apartment and styling clients to fund her dreams, to the moment she could finally stop checking her bank account before ordering dinner. She shares how following her “opportunity tentacles” - her term for staying alert to possibility - kept her always one step ahead, even when the path wasn’t clear.

We go deep into what success means after you’ve achieved it - how Rebecca has redefined it as being fully present. She shares how she’s teaching her kids to negotiate (a skill she once resented learning herself), why she refuses to chase balance, and how labeling ourselves with “imposter syndrome” keeps us stuck in a false story.

It’s an honest, inspiring, and very real conversation - from her ill-fated reality TV experience to the moment her child talked a seller down to a $10 Labubu. What we both came back to again and again: how hard, and important it is to model meaningful work for our kids while still trying to figure out how to message it right.

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At just 23 years old, Chloe Harrouche was diagnosed with breast cancer. Instead of spiraling or feeling defined by the diagnosis, she chose to meet her journey with purpose, trusting that meaning would reveal itself on the other side. A decade later, that belief became the foundation for The Lanby, her concierge medical company created to bridge the gap between medicine and wellness, bringing together the best providers to empower people with integrative care.

In this episode, Chloe opens up more vulnerably than ever before. She shares why she cried only once during her cancer journey - until a fertility struggle years later opened the floodgates. She reflects on the way her mom parented her differently from her sisters - stricter, more focused on academics - and how she now sees both the gifts and the challenges of that approach. Chloe also discusses how cancer shaped her as a parent: the pull toward routines, structure, and wellness, and the simultaneous reminder from her kids to rediscover silliness and presence.

What makes Chloe’s story remarkable is her willingness to hold all of it - her upbringing, her diagnosis, her resilience, her vulnerability - and her belief in a greater purpose running through it all. Her path to founding The Lanby feels not only logical but destined.

In honor of Breast Cancer Awareness Month, this conversation honors the club no woman wants to join but that holds some of the strongest members. As I share in this episode, my own sister is part of that club too.

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Michael Perry could be introduced as the founder of Maple, the creator of KIT (acquired by Shopify), and a Forbes 30 Under 30 entrepreneur. But he’ll tell you the only introduction that matters is: husband to an incredible wife and father to two amazing sons.

Michael found himself on food stamps in his 20s, sold cars for a living, and only dreamed of the symbols of success - financial security, the house, the car, the validation that he had “made it.” And he achieved all of it. But when faced with the possibility that he might never have children, he realized none of it mattered. Through IVF, he and his wife went on to welcome two beautiful boys, and fatherhood became his greatest accomplishment and deepest purpose. Of course his recap of this unleashed all the emotions for me, because this was such a gift to have this reminder from him that I feel such a sense of urgency to share with all of you. 

In this episode, Michael shares the story of how his wife’s unwavering belief in him unlocked his potential, how redefining success transformed his life, and why every achievement felt almost superficial in comparison to being present for his family. Now, with his new venture Maple - which stands for “Making All Parents’ Lives Easier” - he’s building a tool for parents rooted in that same belief: that family is everything, and that being there for the practices, the drop-offs, the moments in between (when we can be) is what really matters. 

My favorite quote from this episode is when he said "everyone is greedy about something and I'm really f*cking greedy about time with my kids."

If there’s one message you were meant to hear as a parent, let it be this: validation and success are fleeting, but showing up for the people you love will always be enough.

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In this episode, I’m answering a mix of questions I’ve gotten from you - things like:

“Why does my kid’s behavior trigger me so much?”

“How do I know if I’m reacting to them or to something in me?”

“What do I do when they refuse to apologize?”

I share a real moment in the car after apple picking where I slipped into that familiar place of making their emotions about my expectations. Not because I don’t know better - but because maybe I’m still unlearning what I absorbed growing up. The work isn't about being perfect in the moment - it's about noticing it later and repairing . I also talk about something so many of us do without realizing it: parenting for the people watching instead of the child in front of us - especially when we feel judged, embarrassed, or responsible for how our kids make us “look.”

Here’s what else I get into:

This is basically my first full solo episode, and I’d really love to hear what you think. Do you want more episodes like this? What topics should I do next? Send me a DM, leave a review, or message me one of your questions - I’d love to build future solos around what you’re actually navigating.

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What happens when you build a business with your spouse before you even start dating? For Olivia Landau and Kyle Simon, co-founders of The Clear Cut, that was the foundation of their love story, their multi-million-dollar company—and now, their parenting journey.

In this episode, Olivia and Kyle open up about:

How Kyle believed in Olivia’s idea before she did, pushing her to grow a blog hobby into a thriving business. How even her parents doubted her early on - and how that early lack of belief shaped her journey as a founder. 

Why they wish they had given themselves more time to adjust to parenthood instead of jumping back into work too quickly.

The surprising freedom they’ve found in releasing control—delegating at home and in business—and why it doesn’t make them any less of entrepreneurs.

The ways their “not okay-ness” shows up—Olivia as a recovering perfectionist, Kyle as someone working on being more present—and how they’re navigating those patterns as new parents.

It’s an honest, funny, and relatable look at the intersection of marriage, entrepreneurship, and parenthood—proving that success isn’t about doing it all yourself, but about learning when to lean on each other and your village.

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Imagine getting an inside glimpse into the dynamic between a mother and daughter—their reflections on who they are, where it all comes from, and how it shapes the way they show up in their own parenting. Imagine hearing not only the beauty, but also the “not so okay” parts, spoken with honesty and without hiding behind perfection.

That’s exactly what you’ll hear in this episode with Lynn Shabinsky, known to over a million followers on Instagram as White Hair Wisdom, and her daughter, Marissa Savrick, her Director of Operations and mom of three. Together, they share not only what inspires them, but also the challenges, doubts, and growth edges that have shaped their bond as both mothers and daughters.

We explore everything from the traps of “toxic positivity,” to the struggle of feeling like enough, to the freedom that comes from embracing who you are. Lynn’s ability to self-reflect with honesty—not with resentment or regret, but with awareness and empowerment—proves why White Hair Wisdom is the perfect name for her platform.

This is a conversation that reminds us why sharing stories across generations matters. You'll relate to it, want to call your mom from it and learn so much from it.

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