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As Sheryl Sandberg departs Meta many are re-examining the impact of her bestselling book Leaning In and how it fits into today's workplace. Jess and Jess sit down for a captivating conversation with author and speaker, Melanie Ho about her book and the  concept of “leaning in” and the challenges that women face in the workplace. “Leaning in and acting more like men” ignores the stereotypical feminine traits needed for modern leadership, and leaves the workplace vulnerable overall, and shortchanges women from utilizing their strengths as they are often undervalued.
 
Jess and Jess talk with Melanie about how she tells the story of Debra, a pioneering CEO in her early sixties who is much beloved by her team at her growing start-up. But sales are declining, and her strongest women leaders are departing one after the other. It isn’t until she enlists the “reverse mentorship” of the much younger Cassandra that Debra begins to understand the challenges the next generation of women leaders face and the impact on the bottom line. 

 BEYOND LEANING IN is a different kind of book—while it is based on research, it is told as a novel and designed to spark discussion which is exactly what happens on this episode. 

Meet Melanie:
Melanie Ho is a keynote speaker, workshop facilitator, and the author of BEYOND LEANING IN: GENDER EQUITY AND WHAT ORGANIZATIONS ARE UP AGAINST, a 2022 Axiom Business Book Awards winner described by Kirkus Reviews as “an engaging evolution of Sheryl Sandberg’s ‘lean in’” mantra. Also a visual
artist, Melanie has drawn dozens of comics about the challenges women face at work and leads interactive presentations and workshops using these comics to help team members across genders discuss how to create more equitable workplaces.https://www.melanieho.com/about

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