The Nourished CEO Podcast

What Selling a $12,000 Mastermind From Zero Taught Me About Conviction


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What would it look like to sell something that doesn't technically exist yet, with no testimonials, no returning cohort, and almost no runway?

That's exactly what I've been doing this month with The Decision Room, a $12,000 six-month mastermind I built from scratch and started selling before I had a single person in it.

The most important thing I learned in the process had nothing to do with marketing tactics. It had everything to do with what was holding the offer up when there was nothing tangible behind it.

In this episode, I'm walking you through the full behind-the-scenes of this launch: what I did that most marketers would call unhinged, the moment I almost talked myself out of running it, and the one shift that changed how I sell.

If your sales have felt harder lately and you can't quite name why, this episode is going to give you a sharper way to look at the problem.

Timeline Highlights
  • [00:00] – Selling a $12,000 mastermind with no cohort, no testimonials, and a launch built almost entirely on conviction
  • [01:10] – Why launching a mastermind from zero is one of the hardest things to sell as an online business owner
  • [01:57] – Why declining sales at the six-figure level usually isn't a tactics problem
  • [02:42] – The two ways conviction erodes: outgrowing your offer vs. never fully committing to it
  • [05:54] – The Decision Room Mastermind: what it is, who it's for, and why the deadline matters
  • [09:28] – What it meant to sell this offer when the only thing holding it up was personal belief
  • [15:54] – Breaking the marketing rules: no launch event, no runway, no existing cohort feeding renewals
  • [38:46] – The unconventional outreach moves: cold DMs, competitor asks, former coaches, and a networking group
  • [50:10] – What changed when I stopped pre-deciding people's answers and started asking directly
Top Quotes from the Episode
  1. "You cannot sell what you have not fully decided to sell."

  1. "When you're selling something that doesn't exist yet, the only thing carrying it in those early days is how much you believe in it."

  1. "How somebody buys from you is always a reflection of your conviction, and you can't talk your way around a belief that you don't have."

  1. "Sometimes you literally need to make less money in the short term to be faithful to the thing you're creating, so it can grow for the long run."

  1. "I stopped pre-deciding people's answers for them. I stopped assuming they'd say no. I stopped assuming they'd be weirded out. I just decided to ask."

  1. "If you can ideate something and go sell it before you've built it, you can pretty much do anything in business. That's the skill."

  1. "I named the offer after the mechanism, not the outcome, and I trusted my buyer to be smart enough to understand why that matters."

Links & Resources
  • The Decision Room Mastermind: jointhedecisionroom.com

  • CEO Type Quiz: lauraschoenfeld.com/quiz

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