Lisa sits down with Laura, an Out of the Cave Podcast listener who’s life and mind-body-soul system was turned upside down after an accident. Laura details the road in which being hit by a drunk drunk driver led her out of the cave and into a life of recovery.

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[6:30] Laura tells her story of how she went from being a physical therapist who believed she had a solid understanding of the body, to her whole mind-body system being turned upside down after a serious car accident involving a drunk driver, to fighting a battle to heal her chronic pain and mental health, and how it all ultimately led her to realizations about food and eating and Out of the Cave

[12:30] Laura talks about her early relationship to food, eating, and body image and growing up bigger and taller than the other kids and the impact of her losing her father at 8 years old

[27:00] Laura talks about getting on the “anti-diet bandwagon” after dieting on and off for decades and where both she and Lisa believes it’s lacking

[32:00] Laura reflects on pregnancy and motherhood and its effect on her relationship with food and eating and when her daughter got older Laura is ready to focus on herself and then is in a horrible car accident

[40:00] Laura finds Curable and finds initial success and explains why and how she dove so much deeper into “the work” and how she came to link her chronic pain to her relationship with food, eating, and body image

[1:00:00] Laura talks about living in the gray, the ongoing process of healing, and embodying acceptance

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