Warning: This episode discusses topics including shame, disordered coping, and obesity. We are not licensed psychologists — this is a personal and honest conversation, not medical advice.

0:00 - 3:20: Welcome, sourdough and

3:23 - 8:49 : Athena Perez joins the show

8:50 - 10:00: Miranda joins the show, Alcaraz are sick again

10:02 - 12:20: Miranda and Athena's relationship and working relationship

12:21 - 13:30: Athena touches on why it has been important for her to have a coaching 13:30 - 14:35: Mic checks and saying bye to the Alcaraz boys

14:40 - 22:00: Athena's goals and her fitness journey

22:00 - 24:00: Developing a new mindset towards goals

24:01 - 26:03 : Julian's dad and lifestyle changes

26:04 - 30:00: Coaching, empathy and working with larger bodies

30:00 - 35:04: Maladaptive coping strategies, common misunderstanding, and Athena's frustrations

35:06 - 40:20: The Shame Loop, Food, and comparison

40:21 - 50:12: The Bridge & the different ways coping strategies show up

50:12 - 1:07:20: The line between victim mentality and taking responsibility, recovery and higher powers

1:07:20 - 1:18:02: A frayed wire analogy, coping in culture/society, celebrated/encouraged addictions

1:18:40 - 1:23:16: Advice for someone looking to support a family member or friend with a maladaptive coping strategy (food related or other)

1:23:17 - 1:24:30: Follow Athena (@athenamariebt) and check out her book Lifting the Wait

1:25:35 - 1:33:18: Community Shoutouts/Questions

1:33:20 - 1:43:03 : Closing out with Reels/Memes and the future of the show