Whats the Schemata? A Schema Therapy Podcast

Today we discuss the Enmeshment schema, including its origins, problems, and treatment.
Here’s our Enmeshment Playbook - a brief guide of the schema

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In this episode, Robert Brockman is joined by Wendy Behary (an advanced schema therapist based in New Jersey). They focus on how the schema therapy model can be used to manage challenging situations related to grief and loss.

Some links from today's show

- https://www.imrs.nl/en/ - Imagery Rescripting Knowledge Platform

Papers mentioned in the podcast

Peeters, M., Van Passel, B., Peeters, N., & Krans, J. (2026). Do schema modes predict outcome of cognitive behavioural therapy in patients with obsessive-compulsive disorder and anxiety disorders? British Journal of Clinical Psychology. https://doi.org/10.1111/bjc.70052.

Peeters, N., Van Passel, B., Hendriks, G.J., Becker, E., & Krans, J. (2025). Schema-therapeutic exposure for treatment resistant anxiety and obsessive-compulsive disorders: A multiple baseline case series design study. Psychiatry Research Case Reports, 4, 100241. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.psycr.2024.100241

Arslan, F., Krans, J., Hendriks, G.J, Mobach, L., & Kampman, M. (2025). Imagery rescripting for patients with obsessive-compulsive disorder not responding to outpatient cognitive behavioral therapy. Behaviour Research and Therapy, 193. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.brat.2025.104823

Kadriu, F., Claes, L., Witteman, C., Vroling, M., Norre, J., & Krans, J. (2022). Intrusive images, autobiographical memories, and core beliefs of patients with an eating disorder. Applied Cognitive Psychology, 36(4), 842-851. https://doi.org/10.1002/acp.3974

The study where we assessed modes during exposure is not published yet. You can find the preregistration here: https://doi.org/10.17605/OSF.IO/UPKC7

EABCT conference in Brussels 17-19 September —> ST-informed CBT topics

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/julie-krans_eabct2026-eabct206-eabct2026-activity-7496149801583972353-Vyz3?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop&rcm=ACoAAAFCOV8BiZ1YncSDvRa6zpNPVT1UmB8xCmA

We have a new Facebook page!- https://www.facebook.com/groups/whatstheschemata

This podcast centres around the recent Dialectical Behavior Therapy vs Schema Therapy for Patients With Borderline Personality Disorder: The BOOTS Multicenter Randomized Clinical Trial https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/42018336/

In this episode we explore the abandonment schema, what it is, how to help and how it plays out in treatment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWmwTPaxerE&list=PLzZfxr90SZjEmasv9dqppfvwQChddTPFT&index=1

In this episode, we’re joined by Dr Georgie Capone and Dr Rob Szymanek from the UK to discuss the “Schema Therapy for Life!” project. Georgie and Rob share their experiences of applying the schema therapy model to the teaching of music and to boxing training.

Schema Therapy for life Project

Schema Therapy Solution

In this episode, we chat with trainer, writer and Advanced Schema Therapist Remco van der Wijngaart (Netherlands) about how best to develop skills in Schema therapy, new developments within the model and perspectives on empathic confrontation.

Towards a Reformulated Theory Underlying Schema Therapy: Position Paper of an International Workgroup
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10608-021-10209-5

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