Lizzie Rayner (briefly) joins the podcast — before anti-doping knocks on her door...

We then get nearly all our questions answered about what it's like for the athlete when anti-doping shows up: How long does it take to pee? Do they actually watch you? Do you get to know your testers over tea?

Then we get caught up on Joanne's upcoming South Africa Cape Epic adventure. Katie explains the new Supertri qualifying series and why it's good for the development of draft-legal racers in the U.S. And the new 2026 Ironman rules.

Next week: Lizzie returns to finish her story.

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