This episode tackles a tricky and often painful topic—one that leaves many couples feeling stuck: how to navigate attraction after betrayal. When trust has been shattered by infidelity, even something as seemingly harmless as noticing an attractive person can feel threatening. In this conversation, Jake Porter and Karla Summey unpack the difference between noticing and objectifying, examine the influence of cultural messages around beauty and desire, and offer guidance on how transparency, communication, and self-compassion can help couples move forward. For anyone who has felt confused, triggered, or unsure how to engage these moments without causing more harm, this episode offers clarity, validation, and a path toward healing.

Karla Summey is a certified coach who specializes in supporting individuals and couples in the aftermath of sexual betrayal. With a background in nursing and certifications through the International Coaching Federation (ICF), APSATS, and as a Certified Disclosure Guide Coach, she brings both clinical insight and relational wisdom to her work. Karla is especially passionate about fostering shared reality and guiding couples through the Early Recovery Couples Empathy Model (ERCEM) and the Couple-Centered Recovery model. Her compassionate, honest, and partner-sensitive approach helps couples rebuild safety and trust in the face of deep relational wounds.

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