In today’s episode, Jim and Tyson chat with estate planning and business advising attorney, Ron Payne! They dive into the journey of jumping your firm ahead. If you’re interested in learning more about the various practice areas he’s drawn to, lessons to those who practice in multiple areas, and the struggles of running a firm, check out this week’s episode.

Mr. Payne is the CEO & Managing Partner for Apple Payne Law, PLLC in Kernersville, NC. APL strives to serve the "entire family", handling family law, business advising, estate planning, and real estate transactions. When he's not busy running the firm, Ron enjoys spending time with his wife and 2 sons, serving as the Cubmaster for his son's Cub Scout Pack, camping, and video games.

3:29 high school band teacher

7:55 specialist guru

12:11 Legal Aid

15:45 business and estate planning

18:03 core values

21:22 I like change

24:40 expand

28:02 we all belong at the table

Jim’s Hack: If you’re looking for that instant message, connect the team realm, check out Discord, a communication tool. It’s very functional, has a great interface, and good user experience. 

Ron’s Tip: There’s a platform for everything these days. Draw a picture of your tech stack using Canva for your employees to make it easier to understand what they’re using each program/tool for. 

Tyson’s Tip: You can always improve your marriage. Check out the Go-Giver Marriage: A Little Story About the Five Secrets to Lasting Love book.

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