As women of color take the lead in national security, how are they changing the conversation and the culture of the foreign policy community? Jen talks to Mareena Robinson Snowden and Bonnie Jenkins about their careers in nuclear policy, how more diverse voices lead to better policy outcomes, and how the culture of the national security community must grow to better foster inclusion and representation.

Follow Bonnie Jenkins' organization, Women of Color Advancing Peace (WCAPS) on Twitter at @WCAPSnet, and online at wcaps.org

Production assistance on this episode comes from Alma Burke