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  • Staying the Course (Part 3 of 4): Leading People Well When You're Tired | WP 169

    Some seasons of leadership don't feel loud or dramatic. They feel heavy. Quiet. Exhausting in a way sleep doesn't fix.

    If you're leading a practice right now and finding yourself thinking, "I don't have the energy for one more conversation," or "Why does this feel so hard when I'm doing everything right?"—this episode is for you.

    Today, we're talking about what it really looks like to lead when you're tired. Not just physically tired, but soul tired. The kind of fatigue that comes from carrying responsibility for clients, staff, finances, and vision—often without realizing how much weight you've been holding.

    This is the third episode in our January series, Staying the Course: Faithful Leadership in Seasons That Ebb and Flow, and it's one of the most honest conversations I've had about leadership. I'm sharing from a very real place—walking through family health challenges, a demanding season of business growth, and my own need to slow down and pay attention to what my body and spirit are asking for.

    In this episode, we'll talk about:

    • How leadership fatigue actually shows up (often before we name it)
    • Why burnout doesn't mean you're failing—it often means you care deeply
    • The hidden cost of self-sacrifice in faith-based leadership
    • What Scripture shows us about rest, boundaries, and sustainable leadership
    • And how caring for yourself is one of the most loving things you can do for your team

    If you're navigating a slower season, feeling worn down, or questioning your capacity to keep going—this conversation is an invitation to pause, reflect, and lead yourself with the same compassion you offer everyone else.

    Let's dive in.

    02:30 What "Soul Tired" Actually Feels Like for Practice Owners 04:12 "I Don't Have the Energy for One More Thing" (Normalizing Fatigue) 05:23 Even Jesus Got Tired… Faith, Rest, and Leadership 06:50 When Fatigue Creeps In Quietly (And Then Hits Like a Truck) 08:22 Signs You're Leading While Burned Out 10:29 Leadership Gets Heavy Before You Notice 13:21 Why Self-Sacrifice Isn't Always Faithful Leadership 15:20 Rest Is a Rhythm, Not a Reward 16:28 Leading Yourself Before Leading Others 20:24 Faithful Leadership Looks Different When You're Tired

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    25 min
  • Staying the Course (Part 2 of 4): Why Pulling Back Costs You More Later | WP 168

    There's a moment every practice owner faces—the numbers wobble, referrals slow down, and fear quietly whispers, "Maybe now is the time to pull back."

    In today's episode, I'm continuing our January series on faithful leadership during the ebbs and flows of private practice, and we're tackling a decision I see practice owners make every single year: pulling back when things feel uncertain—and how that choice often costs more in the long run.

    We're talking about why slowing down feels responsible, how fear can disguise itself as wisdom, and how to lead your practice with discernment instead of reaction. I'll walk you through the real impact of pausing marketing, delaying systems, stepping away from support, and taking everything on yourself—plus how Scripture invites us into patience, consistency, and long-term vision.

    If you're in a slower season, feeling unsure, or wondering whether the decisions you're making now will help or hurt you later, this conversation is for you. My hope is that this episode helps you stay rooted, steady, and faithful—without burning out or retreating from the very things that help your practice grow.

    Let's dive in.

    2:33 The Hidden Cost of Slower Seasons 5:07 How "Responsible" Choices Can Hurt Long-Term Growth 7:26 Marketing, Support, and the Places We Pull Back First 9:06 The Long Game: Why Consistency Beats Quick Relief 11:58 Cause-and-Effect Delays Every Practice Owner Misses 14:01 Lost Time, Lost Money, Lost Impact 16:33 Staying the Course When Fear Says Retreat 18:25 Discernment Questions for Uncertain Seasons 24:17 Faithful Leadership Is Consistency, Not Intensity 28:00 What to Do Differently in the Next Slow Season

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    Wise Practice Mastermind

    30 min
  • Staying the Course (Part 1 of 4): Faithful Leadership When the Numbers Feel Unsteady | WP 167

    As we step into a new year, it's easy to feel pressure to move faster, do more, and fix everything all at once — especially as a private practice owner. But what if faithful leadership doesn't look like reacting quickly… and instead looks like staying steady?

    To start 2026, I'm sharing a January solo podcast series called Staying the Course: Faithful Leadership in a Practice That Ebbs and Flows. This series is all about slowing down, discerning wisely, and leading your practice with consistency, faith, and stewardship — even when the numbers feel uncertain.

    In this first episode, Faithful Leadership When the Numbers Feel Unsteady, I talk openly about the fear that can surface when profit drops, caseloads fluctuate, or staffing changes shake your confidence. Drawing from my own experience as a solo and group practice owner, I explore why ebb and flow is not a sign of failure, how fear can disguise itself as "wisdom," and what it actually looks like to lead faithfully during unsteady seasons.

    We'll talk about:

    • Why fluctuating income is normal in private practice
    • How to avoid making reactive, fear-based decisions
    • When to slow down — and when not to pull back
    • The role of discernment, leadership teams, and faith in business decisions
    • Why consistency matters more than intensity over time

    This episode is an invitation to pause, breathe, and reframe how you view uncertainty in your practice. Faithful leadership isn't about controlling outcomes. It's about steady stewardship, wise investment, and trusting God through every season of growth, loss, and change.

    If your practice feels uncertain right now, you're not behind. You're right where many faithful leaders find themselves, and you don't have to navigate it alone.

    02:13 Slowing Down Is Not Quitting, It's Leadership 03:22 When the Numbers Get Weird, and Fear Shows Up 05:03 Ebbs, Flows, and Why This Is Completely Normal 06:59 The Year Half My Team Left and I Didn't Quit 11:12 When Fear Disguises Itself as "Wisdom" 13:49 My 24-Hour Rule for Big Decisions 19:08 Faithful Leadership Is Consistent, Not Flashy

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    Wise Practice Mastermind

    27 min
  • What Should I Pay Myself as a Practice Owner with Barry Roach | WP 166

    Hi friends! Whitney here — and today's Wise Practice episode is one every single practice owner needs in their back pocket. Whether you're brand-new to private practice or scaling into a thriving group, the same question always surfaces: "What should I actually pay myself?"

    It sounds simple… until taxes, entity types, self-employment rules, "reasonable salary" requirements, and quarterly payments make your head spin. That's why I brought on someone who makes money talk feel human — Barry Roach Jr., enrolled agent and owner of Core Accounting & Consulting Group.

    Barry has spent years helping therapists understand their numbers, strengthen their financial foundation, and navigate tax decisions with confidence. And in this episode, he breaks down:

    ✨ When (and when NOT) to elect S-Corp status ✨ What "reasonable salary" really means — no guesswork ✨ The mistake new practice owners make when paying themselves ✨ How to avoid a painful April tax bill ✨ The simple formula for deciding what to take home today

    If you've ever wondered whether you're paying yourself too little, too much, or totally wrong… this episode will save you stress, money, and confusion.

    Trust me — you're going to walk away feeling empowered and clear on your next steps.

    Tune in now and finally get the answers you've been searching for.

    02:42 The #1 question practice owners ask: "What should I pay myself?" 07:30 Sole prop vs. LLC vs. S-Corp 09:33 Ouch: the 43% tax reality check 😬 11:16 The S-Corp advantage (a.k.a. how to keep more of your money) 12:48 Paying yourself when your practice is tiny but mighty 14:34 When an S-Corp actually hurts you 16:00 Reasonable salary: the "many hats" method 19:37 The IRS wants its money… quarterly 😅 21:11 Safe harbor rules, in plain English 23:10 Partnerships + guaranteed payments

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    Wise Practice Mastermind

    27 min
  • End of Year Insurance Billing Procedures with Davia Ward, CMRS, CBCO | WP 165

    In this episode of the Wise Practice Podcast, I sit down with Davia Ward — CEO and founder of Healthcare Partners Consulting & Billing — and one of the most mission-driven leaders I've ever met. With over 37 years of experience in healthcare, Davia has built a nationwide billing firm grounded in accuracy, compassion, and Christ-centered service. But what struck me most in our conversation wasn't just her expertise… it was her heart.

    Davia shares her powerful personal journey from file clerk to registered nurse to founder of a thriving billing company that now employs and empowers women across the country — military wives, single moms, survivors, and those who simply needed someone to believe in their potential. Her story alone is worth listening to.

    But this episode is also packed with practical, timely tools for insurance-based practice owners, especially as we head into the end of the year. Davia breaks down:

    ✨ What every practice owner needs to know about open enrollment ✨ How to communicate with patients about insurance changes (without stress) ✨ The biggest billing mistakes clinics make in December ✨ How to avoid claim rejections related to year-end transitions ✨ Why therapists must stop assuming what clients can or can't afford ✨ A powerful mindset shift around reimbursement, value, and leadership

    Plus — Davia created an end-of-year billing SOP toolkit just for Wise Practice listeners. Yes, really.

    This conversation is equal parts heart, wisdom, and highly actionable guidance. If you've ever felt overwhelmed by insurance billing, unsure how to navigate the year-end chaos, or simply needed encouragement from a strong Christian leader… this episode will bless you.

    Tune in and learn how to streamline your billing, strengthen your leadership, and serve your clients well — one claim at a time.

    03:10 Meet Davia Ward 04:18 Why She Created a Patient-First Billing Company 07:52 Empowering Women Through Hiring & Leadership 08:44 Integrating Faith Into Business & Service 10:38 What Practice Owners Must Know About Open Enrollment 11:57 Smart December Reminders to Prevent Claim Issues 13:29 Teaching Clients to Understand Their Benefits 14:53 Avoiding Year-End Claim Rejections 17:51 When Insurance Stops Paying: How to Have the Conversation 18:59 Stop Assuming What Clients Can Afford

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    Wise Practice Mastermind

    27 min
  • How to Scale to a 7-Figure Practice with Alison Pidgeon, LPC | WP 164

    In this episode of the Wise Practice Podcast, I'm excited to welcome my dear friend and trusted colleague, Alison Pidgeon. Alison is the founder and CEO of Move Forward Counseling, a thriving multi-location practice in Pennsylvania with eight offices and more than 65 clinicians. I've had the joy of watching her grow from a single-location practice to a seven-figure business, and her insights on scaling are truly invaluable.

    Before we dive in, I share a quick story about a long-running joke between us—our shared dream of owning hot tubs. Alison bought hers years ago; I kept putting it off. And then, in the most unexpected way, I ended up being gifted a blow-up baptism hot tub from our church. It felt like the perfect metaphor for business growth: sometimes the things we hesitate on finally come together in surprising ways.

    Today, Alison and I talk about what practice owners often get wrong when scaling, how to hire and retain strong clinicians, when to invest in leadership, and why delegation is essential if you want to grow to seven figures without burning out.

    If you're dreaming of a bigger practice—or wondering what sustainable scaling really looks like—you're going to love this conversation.

    06:22 From One Location to Eight 07:48 Common Pitfalls When Scaling 10:17 What It Takes to Reach Seven Figures 11:57 When to Hire HR 14:41 Hiring Therapists Who Stay 17:33 Values-Based Hiring 18:09 The Power of Delegation 22:47 Investing Before You're Ready 23:29 Why Bigger Doesn't Mean More Work 24:48 Systems, Bonuses & Accountability 27:49 Building Connection Across Locations

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    Wise Practice Mastermind

    32 min
  • Protecting Your Brand and Avoiding Trademark Scams with Joey Vitale | WP 163

    Today's episode is such a good one, y'all. If you've ever wondered how to actually protect your brand—or if all those scary trademark scam letters are legit—you are in for a treat. I brought back one of my favorite past guests, Joey Vitale, and trust me… when someone comes on the Wise Practice Podcast twice, it's because they REALLY know their stuff.

    Joey is not only a top-rated trademark attorney, he's the guy who makes the legal side of business feel simple, human, and—dare I say—fun. And after everything he's taught me (and after using his team personally for my own trademark), I knew we needed a round two.

    Today we're diving into what's new in the trademark world, how to spot a scam a mile away, why those "blue check" Gmail verifications matter, and the surprising places your brand might be at risk without you even realizing it. And listen—after the week I've had using ChatGPT to accidentally make up an entire fictional plot for my book club (yes, really), I can confidently say: do NOT let AI handle your trademark strategy. Leave that part to the experts.

    So if you want to protect the business you've worked so hard to build—or you simply want to stop second-guessing every trademark-ish email that lands in your inbox—this episode is going to give you clarity and peace of mind.

    Let's jump in and talk trademarks, scams, and everything in between with the brilliant and always entertaining Joey V.

    02:00 – Whitney's ChatGPT Book Club Fail 06:54 – Meet Joey Vitale (Again!) 09:28 – The Good, the Bad & the "Do Not Trademark This" List 15:32 – When Another Business Has Your Same Name 21:20 – Beware Trademark Scams 23:52 – The Gmail Blue Check & Why It Matters 30:01 – AI, DIY Risks & USPTO Updates 31:28 – How to Work With Indie Law (+ Listener Discount)

    Joey Vitale's Resources

    Website 👉 $300 off any trademark service after you book and complete the free consult call. LinkedIn Instagram YouTube Facebook

    The 3 Mistakes You Must Avoid to Protect Your Brand with Joey Vitale

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    Wise Practice Mastermind

    34 min
  • Creating a Practice That Changes You with Shelby Rhea Miller, LPCC | WP 162

    If you've ever felt like your practice is stretching you, shaping you, or even changing you—this episode is going to speak straight to your heart.

    Today, I'm sitting down with the incredible Shelby Rhea Miller, LPCC, founder of Sycamore Counseling Services, to talk about what really happens when God uses your business to grow you.

    Shelby's story is full of courage, risk-taking, surrender, and the kind of spiritual formation that only comes from stepping into something bigger than yourself. She's built a thriving practice from the ground up, but even more importantly—her practice has been building her.

    In this conversation, we unpack what it means to follow the Holy Spirit in business decisions, how to find joy even when the risk feels huge, and how God shows up in the unexpected twists and disappointments along the way. If you're a practice owner wondering where God is leading you—or why your growth feels stretching—this episode will encourage you to lean in with faith and boldness.

    Let's dive into "Creating a Practice That Changes You" with my friend Shelby Rhea. You're going to love this one.

    06:47 – Meet Shelby Rhea Miller, LPCC 09:07 – The Spiritual Calling Behind Starting a Practice 10:17 – Faith-Building Through Risk 11:47 – Finding Joy in Risk 12:48 – Growing Your Caseload & Your Faith 14:33 – The Power of Surrender 16:08 – Getting Out of Your Own Way 18:20 – Shifting From Scarcity to Abundance 19:37 – Trusting Others in the Building Process 21:49 – Balancing Logic With Faith 24:06 – Throwing Out the Spreadsheet 25:33 – When Plans Don't Go Your Way 27:52 – Returning to Trust in Hard Moments 29:45 – Rituals That Keep You Centered 31:04 – The Invitation to Grow With God

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    Wise Practice Mastermind

    33 min
  • How Vicarious Trauma Impacts our Work with Jenny Hughes, PhD | WP 161

    As a therapist and group practice owner, I know firsthand how the work we do shapes us. The stories we hold, the crises we navigate, and even the simple act of showing up empathically day after day can impact our emotional and spiritual health. That ongoing impact is called vicarious trauma, and it plays a bigger role in our work—and our leadership—than we often acknowledge.

    In this episode, I'm joined by Jenny Hughes, PhD, a licensed clinical psychologist who specializes in trauma and PTSD and supports helpers and healers through these exact experiences. Jenny offers such a compassionate, grounded perspective on what vicarious trauma looks like, how it shows up in our bodies and businesses, and why it's something we all encounter as clinicians. She also introduces the beautiful idea of vicarious resilience—the glimmers of hope and connection we receive from doing this work.

    We also talk about how faith, community, and honest conversations can help us lead from a place of clarity instead of overwhelm. Whether you're a solo practitioner or running a growing group practice, this conversation will give you language, tools, and encouragement to navigate the emotional weight of this work with more intention.

    This conversation is full of insight, encouragement, and practical wisdom for anyone doing the sacred work of helping others heal.

    07:13 Meet Jenny Hughes, PhD 09:40 What Vicarious Trauma Really Is 11:55 Real-Life Example: When Heavy Stories Stick With Us 14:10 Understanding Vicarious Resilience 16:14 Soft Transitions and Healthy Processing 18:40 How Our Humanity Shapes Our Leadership 21:54 What Group Practice Owners Need to Name Out Loud 23:43 The Trauma of Running a Practice 25:32 Building Support Systems for Leaders 27:26 Inside the Brave Trauma Therapist Collective 30:47 Giving Yourself Permission to Be Human

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    Wise Practice Mastermind

    35 min
  • How to Improve Self-Awareness in Leadership - Live Consulting with Anna Sasser-Christian, LCSW | WP 160

    Hey friends, it feels so good to be back on the mic! After months of prepping for the Wise Practice Summit and connecting with so many amazing practice owners in Greenville, I'm coming into this episode fired up and full of gratitude.

    If you've ever had one of those seasons where you thought, "This is just too much… maybe I should quit," I've been there too. But let me tell you, God always shows up. The Summit was such a beautiful reminder that the work we do—growing our practices, leading our teams, and serving from a place of faith—truly matters. And when we keep showing up with perseverance and prayer, He blesses it in ways we can't even imagine.

    Today, I'm thrilled to introduce you to Anna Sasser-Christian, founder of Little Dove Counseling in Walnut Creek, California. Anna has been part of the Wise Practice community for a while now, and I've watched her grow from a solo therapist to leading a thriving group of seven clinicians — all while becoming a new mom!

    In this live consulting episode, Anna brings a thoughtful question about leadership — not just how to manage a team, but how to show up as a Christ-centered leader who creates clarity, connection, and peace within her practice. We're diving deep into self-awareness, spiritual grounding, and what it really means to lead with faith at the core.

    So grab your coffee, settle in, and let's get into a conversation that's going to encourage you, challenge you, and remind you that you don't have to do this work alone.

    07:40 Exciting News: Next Stop — Nashville! 08:45 Introducing Anna Sasser-Christian, LCSW 10:30 From Solo Therapist to Strong Leader 11:50 The Heart of Leadership: Self-Awareness & Faith 17:15 Clarifying the Vision for Your Practice 23:00 Letting Go of Control and Listening to God 25:30 Hearing Feedback with Humility 28:00 Why Every Leader Needs Coaching & Community 34:40 Final Reflections: Leading with Faith and Rest

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    Wise Practice Mastermind

    36 min

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Building a thriving faith-based private practice takes courage, wisdom, and a commitment to growing your business without compromising your faith or values.

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