Growing up on a farm in rural Finland before exploring the entire planet, Tero has been fascinated by nature’s effect on the human body his whole life. He co-founded his company Four Sigmatic (formerly Four Sigma Foods) in 2012 with several Finnish friends and ever since then, he’s converted tons of people to mushroom lovers (including Four-Hour Body author Tim Ferriss).

In this episode, Tero and I will go into the differences between the powerful adaptogenic herbs and mushrooms, how they work in the body and how they can help you get into the flow state. Make sure to check out the end of the episode where Tero shares his experience of a soundbath in the Californian countryside.