There's the world we're in, and there's the world in us. One is where life happens, the other is where living happens. One is about our life situation, the other is about our life experience. One seen, one unseen. Jem Fuller is an Author, Corporate Speaker, Facilitator, Eternal Optimist, Good Bloke and I was lucky enough to chat with him about our worlds. Enjoy.

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