Jacqui Louder and I have been friends for twenty years, did radio together for ten of those and have both been working in similar spaces (sport, high-performance, psychology, health) for all of our adult lives. It was great to catch up and talk about life after a successful outcome (she’s the Psychologist for Collingwood FC and Melbourne Storm), hitting the reset button, competence vs. confidence, cognitive entrenchment (it’s a thing), things they don’t teach you at Uni, positional power and personal power and lots more. Enjoy.

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