July 02, 2025

#16 - Water Science Expert Dr. Gerald Pollack Challenges Mainstream Scientific Beliefs

1 hour 12 minutes

Summary:

Dr. Gerald Pollack, a professor at the University of Washington, is renowned for his pioneering research on the science of water's fourth phase, known as exclusion zone, EZ water and structured water. In this second interview with Dr Pollack we discuss his 2023 Plos research paper (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10586597/). The study showed that blood still flows without a heartbeat and the presence of infrared light. This is key for hydration, lymphatic system blood flow, heart-health, and prevention of cardiovascular disease, and the nature of energy in the body, which is not just ATP made in the mitochondria.

Dr Pollacks Water Conference: https://waterconf.org/

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Chapters

00:00 The Heart and Energy Dynamics

02:52 Introduction to Quantum Biology and Water Science

06:08 Challenging Mainstream Scientific Narratives

09:00 The Role of Infrared Light in Blood Flow

11:55 Discovering Structured Water and Its Implications

14:48 The Exclusion Zone: A New Phase of Water

18:09 Energy Sources and Their Role in Biological Systems

21:04 The Mechanism of Water Flow in Tubes

23:59 Experimental Findings and Their Significance

26:55 Implications for Cardiovascular Health

29:50 Conclusion: Rethinking Circulatory Mechanisms

38:31 Understanding Blood Flow Dynamics

41:00 The Role of Infrared Energy in Health

44:18 The Mechanics of Red Blood Cell Movement

46:51 The Importance of Sauna for Cardiovascular Health

49:52 Exploring the Fourth Phase of Water

50:53 Annual Water Conference Insights

52:52 Upcoming Books and Research Directions

Sound Bites

"The heart alone can't explain blood flow."

"We found a new phase of water."

"Water can act like a battery."

"Energy dynamics are crucial for health."

"Energy comes from infrared light."

"Infrared light builds the exclusion zone."

"Circulation is not just about the heart."

"How does the water know which way to go?"

"The sauna is certainly powerful."

"We still don't understand how planes fly."

"Water is centrally involved in earthquakes."

"The cell is filled with negative charge."

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DISCLAIMER: This podcast is for entertainment purposes only and does not constitute medical advise. Please consult your healthcare provider before making any medical decisions. Views expressed by guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the host.

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