In this 'world first' special double episode we bring together two of the great coaching minds of the last 40 years; Dan John (for his record breaking 7th visit with us) & Phil Maffetone (for his 3rd visit with us).

Both world renowned & highly respected coaches, authors, athletes & academics who from the outside operate on different ends of the spectrum - strength & endurance.

We discuss training (obviously), haircuts leading up to competition, the Blue Zones, nutrition, cheese making, the brain, music & life.

A rich conversation that will definitely be continued at a later date. Settle in for a fireside chat that could (& does) go in some unique directions.