At 17, Rachel Pope had her whole world thrown into chaos when her father was given weeks to live. He died at 47. Eight years later she tragically lost her brother in a car accident and then at 37, the mum of two became a widow, when her husband Ray passed away from the same cancer that killed her dad. Tragedy, grief and death are unavoidable components of the human experience, which is why conversations like this one are so important. There’s definitely no ‘three-step’ plan when it comes to grieving or supporting others through their grief but opening the door on this topic is definitely a step in the right direction. These days, Rachel helps people find some light in their darkness with her book (Gifts from Grief), her speaking and the community she’s building to empower and support others. This was a really important chat and I was privileged to be part of it.

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