Matt Bradburn, Founder of The People Collective, joined us on The Modern People Leader.

We talked about why the People Ops as a Product movement is picking up steam, how to pilot this approach, and the biggest pitfalls when making the change.

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(2:04) Good news stories

(6:36) Matt’s career journey

(10:56) What The People Collective does

(14:00) Why we should be jealous he gets to work at The People Collective

(15:35) The possibility of humans and technology working together

(19:47) The challenges we’re going to face with AI

(24:15) The skills junior employees should be focusing on

(29:10) The best CPOs are data-driven, great storytellers, and know how and when to use empathy

(34:50) The “People Ops as a Product” movement

(45:08) Piloting People Ops as a Product

(46:08) How to identify areas to pilot People Ops as a Product

(49:05) Biggest pitfalls when moving to People Ops as a Product

(55:09) Rapid fire questions

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