In this episode, Peter sits down with Håvard as they explore the impact of growing up in an environment where conflict felt unpredictable and safety never felt certain.

Håvard shares how, from a young age, he learned to stay alert, anticipate problems, and carry responsibility far beyond his years. What began as a way of protecting himself gradually became a life spent in survival mode, always preparing for what might go wrong.

As the conversation unfolds, a deeper understanding begins to emerge around the pressure he has been carrying for decades, and what might be possible beyond it.