It dawned on me that three years down the track, I still didn’t really understand how David Gillespie ‘works’. I’ve known him for years but we’ve never actually met in person, and so I’ve never really chatted with him ‘about’ him - so to speak. Turns out, he’s fascinating. This was a very different conversation to our typical episodes, but it’s honestly one of my favourites. Maybe top three all time. Enjoy.

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