Hey there! I'm Kate from Hello Funnels, and in this episode of The Doing It Online podcast, I'm breaking down the math that changes everything.

If you've been chasing volume, running yourself ragged trying to make enough sales to hit your revenue goals, this episode is going to blow your mind.

Because here's the truth: you can have the best offer in the world, but if your numbers don't work, your business doesn't work.

I'm a self-confessed spreadsheet nerd, and I've learned that different business models have different numbers that matter. And knowing what those numbers are—and how to use them—can literally be the difference between hitting your goals and wondering why nothing's working.

So today, I'm walking you through the most important numbers you need to know if you want to create, fill, and scale a profitable group program in 2026. Including the math that shows you why you need about 10X fewer sales to hit $200K with a Leveraged Live Experience versus a traditional course.

This is the episode that's going to make you go, "Wait, THAT'S all I need to sell?"

Let's dive in!

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