In today's episode, I'm interviewing Mal Glowenke, host of the Made It Out podcast, who's been a pioneer in the lesbian podcast scene. We dive into her recent breakup—not only with her romantic partner but also her podcast co-host—and how that experience has shaped her healing journey. We talk about the unique challenges of navigating a breakup while untangling both a business and a mutual friend group, especially within the close-knit world of queer women. Mal shares the tools and practices that have helped her heal, the importance of building "muscle memory" around self-care and coping, and why she believes every breakup is an opportunity to get closer to who you truly are. We discuss the concept of "expanders," finding gratitude in the mess, and allowing yourself to borrow hope when your own feels low. There’s so much wisdom in this conversation, whether you’re moving through a breakup, navigating big life changes, or just looking to build your inner toolkit.

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