Betrayal shakes our sense of safety and self-trust—and that lights up fear. In this conversation, fear researcher and author Dr. Mary Poffenroth breaks fear down into plain language and gives you practical, physiology-first tools to calm the brain in the moment. We cover how fear hijacks the amygdala (your alarm system), how to bring the prefrontal cortex (clear thinking) back online, and how to tell the difference between fictional fears (rumination, future-tripping) and non-fictional fears (real, in-the-moment cues). You’ll leave with quick exercises you can do anywhere—no apps, no gear, no supplements. 

What we cover 

• Why high-achievers and “head types” often research their feelings instead of feeling them—and how that becomes a hidden avoidance loop. 

• How fear shows up after betrayal: fear of change, of the unknown, of failure and success, and the loss of control those trigger. 

• The RAIN framework to move through fear step by step: Recognize, Assign, Identify, Navigate.  

• Two fast neurohacks you can use anywhere: 

• Pinch the Valley: massage the meaty point between thumb and index finger to stimulate the vagus nerve and down-shift arousal.  

• Near & Far (convergence drill): track a finger/pen from arm’s length to your nose and back to engage convergence and cue parasympathetic “rest & digest.” 

• The nervous-system bus: only one driver at a time (sympathetic fight/flight vs. parasympathetic rest/digest) and how to switch drivers on purpose. 

• Fictional vs. non-fictional fear (sometimes called “dirty vs. clean” in the literature): how to stop feeding rumination and respond to real-time signals. 

• The two big “buckets” behind most fictional fears: “I’m not enough” and “I’m losing control.” How labeling one calms the spiral. 

 

Try-it-now tools (step-by-step) 

1. Pinch the Valley (vagus nerve reset) 

• Make an “L” with one hand (thumb + index). 

• With the other hand’s thumb and index, massage the firm, meaty point where the thumb and index finger bones meet (below the web). 

• 30–60 seconds per hand while breathing slowly. Expect a subtle down-shift in agitation; repeat as needed.  

1. Near & Far (convergence reset) 

• Hold a finger or pen at arm’s length; softly focus on it. 

• Slowly bring it toward the bridge of your nose until it blurs/doubles, then return to arm’s length. 

• Repeat 5–8 times to help re-engage focus and cue parasympathetic tone. 

1. RAIN (micro-walkthrough) 

• Recognize: Name the body cues (tight jaw, racing heart). 

• Assign: “This is fear arousal.” (Not anger, not shame—fear.) 

• Identify: Is this fictional (story/rumination) or non-fictional (real cue)? If fictional, which bucket: not enough or loss of control? 

• Navigate: Pick one action (boundary, breath, call a friend, make the ask). 

Notable quotes 

• “We spend so much time pretending fear doesn’t exist—and that just drives it underground.” —Dr. Mary 

• “When the amygdala is lit, the prefrontal cortex goes dim. Get your body safe first; the smart ideas return second.” 

• “Healthy distractions—work, fitness, staying busy—can still be avoidance.” 

• “Label it: fictional or non-fictional. Then choose a move.” —Dr. Mary 

• “What we feed grows. Let’s feed courage with small, repeatable actions.” 

 

Who this episode is for 

• Anyone navigating betrayal who feels stuck between fear and next steps. 

• Practitioners and leaders who need simple, teachable fear tools. 

• High-performers who think their feelings and want body-based resets. 

 

Resources & guest links 

• Dr. Mary Poffenroth — official site (book, speaking, downloads). Mary Poffenroth 

• Brave New You (book) — science-backed strategies, tools, and neurohacks to live more courageously.  

• RAIN Method & Neurohacking Downloads (infographic + mini-deck). Mary Poffenroth 

Resources   

• Post Betrayal Syndrome Quiz: Learn if you have been impacted by a past betrayal. 

• For the betrayed – Reclaim: Heal from your betrayal and take your life back. 

 

If this helped, share it with someone who’s rebuilding after betrayal. Try one tool today (20–60 seconds), then repeat tomorrow. Small reps build big courage.