In this powerful and practical conversation, Dr. Debi Silber welcomes her personal attorney and legal expert Lisa Fraley to explore the often-overlooked world of workplace and entrepreneurial betrayal. Whether you’ve been undermined by a boss, copied by a competitor, or blindsided by a client chargeback, this episode unpacks the emotional and legal complexities of betrayal in business. 

Lisa shares real-world stories from her legal career, including the hidden emotional wounds behind corporate conflict and the most common legal mistakes entrepreneurs make—especially when it comes to refunds, stolen content, and broken agreements. You'll learn how to protect yourself with compassion and clarity using strong contracts, clear boundaries, and emotionally intelligent legal strategy. 

WHAT YOU’LL LEARN: 

• How betrayal shows up in corporate settings (and why it’s often ignored) 

• Real-life examples of workplace betrayal—and how they silently erode trust and confidence 

• Why many entrepreneurs get blindsided by refunds, chargebacks, or stolen content 

• What to include in your client agreement to protect your income and intellectual property 

• Why kindness and compassion can be effective legal strategies when handling conflict 

• How often you should review your agreements—and why outdated documents can cost you 

• Why legal documents are not just protection—but energetic boundaries, too 

• A step-by-step guide for how to respond when someone doesn’t pay or copies your work 

RESOURCE MENTIONED: 💼 Free Guide: Refund-Proof Your Client Agreement Get Lisa’s free guide to ensure your refund policies are clear and enforceable: https://lisafraley.com/refundproof  Lisa’s website: https://lisafraley.com  

ABOUT LISA FRALEY: Lisa Fraley, JD, is an attorney, legal coach®, speaker, and author who blends her legal expertise with love and intuition. She supports entrepreneurs in legally protecting their businesses with contracts and insights that empower. 

QUOTE WORTH REMEMBERING: “Your legal documents don’t just protect your income—they protect your energy, your content, and your boundaries.” – Lisa Fraley 

CONNECT WITH DR. DEBI SILBER: Website: https://thepbtinstitute.com  Instagram: @debisilber  Podcast: From Betrayal to Breakthrough 

In this powerful wrap-up to a multi-part series on betrayal and healing, Dr. Debi Silber recaps the three foundational discoveries from her research, revisits the 5 Stages from Betrayal to Breakthrough, and shares how coaches, practitioners, and healers can integrate this proven framework into their work. Whether you're helping clients with mindset, health, leadership, or relationships, unhealed betrayal may be the hidden roadblock keeping them stuck. 

Dr. Debi also offers a look behind the curtain into the PBT® Certification Program—including who it’s for, what’s inside, and how certified coaches and practitioners are transforming both their lives and businesses using the 5 Stages. If you’ve ever sensed that trauma, trust wounds, or emotional residue were standing in the way of your clients’ full potential, this episode will resonate deeply. 

WHAT YOU’LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE: 

• Why betrayal is a unique type of trauma that requires its own healing approach 

• The 3 discoveries that change everything about how we understand betrayal 

• Why most people get stuck in Stage 3—and how to move beyond it 

• How unresolved betrayal sabotages health, confidence, and success 

• Signs that your clients or patients may be struggling with an unhealed betrayal 

• What to do if you’re a coach, healer, or practitioner who suspects betrayal is blocking your clients 

• The truth about therapy, support groups, and common healing pitfalls 

• An inside look at the PBT® Certification and Business Accelerator programs 

• How sharing the 5 Stages can transform your practice and keep you accountable in your own healing journey 

MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE: 

• 💻 Register for the FREE Masterclass (July 17th): https://thepbtinstitute.com/certification-masterclass/  

• 📘 Trust Again – Dr. Debi's book where she first shared her story and the 5 Stages:  

• 🧠 The 5 Stages from Betrayal to Breakthrough: https://thepbtinstitute.com/reclaim/ 

• 🎓 PBT Certification Info: https://thepbtinstitute.com/get-certified/ 

🎤 TEDx Talks by Dr. Debi – both with 1M+ views:  Do You Have Post Betrayal Syndrome?  Stop Sabotaging Yourself  

QUOTABLE MOMENTS: 

"We don’t get over betrayal—we move through it. And when we do, everything changes: our relationships, our health, our confidence." 

"If your client is stuck and nothing seems to work—whether it’s mindset, hormones, gut health, or leadership—it’s time to ask: what’s really at the root of this?" 

"You can’t change what you’re not aware of. But once you see it, healing becomes possible." 

CALL TO ACTION: If you’re a coach, practitioner, or healer ready to serve your clients in a deeper, more transformational way—and you're curious about becoming a certified PBT Coach or Practitioner—join Dr. Debi’s free masterclass on July 17th: 👉 https://thepbtinstitute.com/certification-masterclass 

SHARE THIS EPISODE: Know someone who's ready for the next level of their healing or coaching journey? Send this episode their way—it could be the turning point they didn’t know they needed. 

Last week, we explored the three groundbreaking discoveries about betrayal, why people stay stuck, and the symptoms of Post Betrayal Syndrome®. This week, Dr. Debi Silber takes you deeper into the 5 Stages from Betrayal to Breakthrough—the same proven, research-based framework used at The PBT® Institute to help thousands fully heal. 

Whether you're still feeling the shock of betrayal or you've been struggling with symptoms for decades, these five stages illuminate exactly where you are, why you're there, and what it takes to move forward. 

You’ll also hear: 

• Why Stage 3 is where most people stay stuck (and don’t even know it) 

• The real reason new relationships or time alone don’t heal betrayal 

• How unhealed betrayal keeps impacting your health, work, and relationships 

• What it actually looks like to reach Stage 5: healing, rebirth, and a new worldview 

• Why therapists, coaches, healers, and wellness professionals need this framework 

• An invitation to Dr. Debi’s free masterclass on becoming a certified PBT® Coach or Practitioner 

If you’ve ever said, “I feel stuck” or “I just want to move on”—this is the roadmap. 

🔑 Key Takeaways: 

• Stage 1: Before It Happens – A life out of balance between thinking/doing and feeling/being. 

• Stage 2: Discovery Day (D-Day) – The shock of betrayal destroys your worldview, identity, and nervous system regulation. 

• Stage 3: Survival – The most common stuck point. You start coping but not healing. Secondary gains, self-doubt, and unhealthy habits take root. 

• Stage 4: Adjusting to a New Normal – You make the conscious choice to rebuild, even without all the answers. 

• Stage 5: Healing, Rebirth, and a New Worldview – You’re stronger, wiser, and finally free. The pain has been transformed into purpose. 

📌 Mentioned in This Episode: 🔹 Trust Again — Dr. Debi’s book where the 5 Stages are explored:  🔹 The Rebuild Program — For those who have betrayed and want to change 🔹 National Forgiveness Day — Founded by Dr. Debi Silber 🔹 Certification Masterclass — Learn how to become a Certified PBT® Coach or Practitioner 👉 Register here: https://thepbtinstitute.com/certification-masterclass  

👩‍⚕️ For Coaches, Therapists, Healers, and Wellness Professionals: If you’ve ever helped someone struggling with anxiety, digestive issues, low confidence, or chronic stress—it might stem from unhealed betrayal. When you know how to help someone move through these 5 Stages, you don’t just help them cope… you help them transform. 

Join Dr. Debi for a FREE Masterclass on July 15 to see if becoming a Certified PBT® Coach or Practitioner is your next best step. 

🔗 Sign up here: https://thepbtinstitute.com/certification-masterclass 

📣 Loved this episode? Please share it with someone who’s been stuck for too long—or someone who would make an incredible betrayal recovery coach. You can be the reason someone finally heals. 

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Think time heals all wounds? When it comes to betrayal, that simply isn’t true. In this deeply personal and powerful episode, Dr. Debi Silber explores why betrayals from years—or even decades—ago may still be affecting your health, relationships, performance, and self-worth today. Drawing on research from her PhD study and her own healing journey, Dr. Debi reveals the three major discoveries about betrayal trauma, including the proven 5 Stages from Betrayal to Breakthrough and the overlooked symptoms of Post Betrayal Syndrome® . If you’ve ever wondered why you can’t seem to “just get over it,” this episode will show you why—and how to finally heal for good. 

🔑 What You’ll Learn: 

• Why betrayal is a unique type of trauma that requires a specific healing method 

• How Post Betrayal Syndrome ® can manifest physically, mentally, and emotionally—years after the betrayal 

• Why many people stay stuck in Stage 3, and how to break free 

• The impact of unhealed betrayal on your health, work, confidence, boundaries, and more 

• How Dr. Debi rebuilt her life—and even remarried her husband—as a completely new person 

• Why healing is not just possible—it’s predictable 

• What it means to rebuild yourself or your relationship from Stage Five 

• How to know whether it’s time to move on or rebuild with the person who hurt you 

• An invitation to the PBT® Certification Masterclass for coaches and practitioners 

🧠 Key Insights: 

• “Time doesn’t heal betrayal—deliberate action does.” 

• “You’re not crazy. You’re not alone. And you can heal from all of it.” 

• “If you’re still suffering, it’s not aging or stress—it might be unhealed betrayal.” 

• “Stage Five healing means making decisions from strength and clarity, not fear.” 

💥 Symptoms of Unhealed Betrayal May Include: 

• Chronic fatigue, immune issues, or digestive disorders 

• Hypervigilance, brain fog, difficulty focusing 

• Accelerated aging or sleep disturbances 

• Trust issues, self-doubt, or repeat betrayals 

• Feeling stuck emotionally or unable to move on 

📈 From Research to Roadmap: Dr. Debi’s PhD study led to three groundbreaking discoveries: 

1. Betrayal is a distinct type of trauma that requires a unique healing process. 

1. There's a measurable set of symptoms called Post Betrayal Syndrome. 

1. Full healing follows a proven, predictable path through five stages. 

✨ Want to Help Others Heal? If you’re a coach or practitioner who’s experienced betrayal—or you want to support others through this underserved form of trauma—join Dr. Debi for a free masterclass on becoming a certified PBT® Coach or Practitioner. 

📅 Upcoming Event: 🔗 Register for the Free Certification Masterclass: https://thepbtinstitute.com/certification-masterclass/  🗓️ July 15 | Learn the 5 Stages, how to guide others through them, and how to turn your healing into purpose-driven impact. 

🌍 Global Reach: PBT Certified Coaches are now serving clients in Vietnam, Kenya, the Middle East, and more. 

🛑 Final Words of Encouragement: You can heal. Whether you choose to rebuild yourself or rebuild your relationship, healing is a choice—and it’s one that leads to confidence, clarity, and peace. 

🔗 Resources Mentioned: 

• Post Betrayal Syndrome Quiz: https://thepbtinstitute.com/pbs-quiz/ 

• Certification Masterclass: https://thepbtinstitute.com/certification-masterclass/ 

• Reclaim: https://thepbtinstitute.com/reclaim/  

👂🏼 Subscribe & Review: If this episode spoke to you, please subscribe, rate, and leave a review—it helps others find this life-changing work. 

Guest: Akary Busto – Nervous System Specialist, Human Design Expert, Breathwork Facilitator 

Episode Summary: What does it really mean to regulate your nervous system—and how do you know when it's dysregulated in the first place? In this episode, Dr. Debi Silber is joined by her friend and fellow healer Akary Busto for a wide-ranging, insight-packed conversation on nervous system regulation, HeartMath, human design, and how subtle energetic shifts can create massive emotional healing—especially in the aftermath of betrayal. 

Akary shares her personal journey of healing through biofeedback, breathwork, and intuitive embodiment practices, and explains how knowing your human design can offer profound clarity on your reactions, choices, and energy. You’ll learn how the nervous system holds the key to long-lasting transformation—and why simple tools like breathing through your heart can create immediate calm and coherence in everyday life. 

🔑 Topics We Cover: 

• Akary’s healing journey through betrayal and burnout 

• What nervous system dysregulation really looks like 

• Why traditional trauma therapy doesn’t always stick 

• Using HeartMath and biofeedback to track inner states 

• How breathwork helps rewire responses to stress 

• Why simplicity is key—and why healing doesn’t have to be hard 

• The hidden power of “the pause” 

• Understanding human design: manifesting generators, open centers & more 

• Why we attract certain people (like narcissists) based on our energetic blueprint 

• How heart-centered presence can influence those around you 

• The ripple effect of regulated energy in daily life 

• Why your value isn’t tied to your productivity 

💬 Memorable Quotes: 

“If your nervous system isn’t resilient, the healing won’t stick—no matter what therapy you do.” —Akary Busto 

“We are so conditioned to think healing has to be hard. But it’s the simple practices—like breathing through the heart—that change everything.” —Dr. Debi Silber 

“Everything is energy. So when you show up calm and centered, it affects everyone around you.” —Akary Busto 

🛠️ Resources Mentioned: 

• HeartMath Institute 

• https://thepbtinstitute.com/humandesign/  resources and charts (discussed in the episode) 

• Connect with Akary: https://uhkare.com  and @uhkarebreathwork on Instagram 

• The PBT Institute: Reclaim – for the betrayed 

💡 Takeaway: 

Healing isn’t always about doing more—it’s about doing differently. When you regulate your nervous system, understand your energetic wiring, and lean into practices that work with your design, you open the door to real transformation—no force required. 

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Guest: Geoff Steurer, Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, Betrayal Trauma Specialist, and Co-Host of From Crisis to Connection 

Episode Summary: In this powerful conversation, Dr. Debi Silber sits down with Geoff Steurer to unpack the deeply layered process of rebuilding trust after betrayal. Whether the betrayal came from infidelity, emotional disconnection, or broken agreements, Geoff explains how couples can not only survive the fallout—but create a completely new, stronger relationship. Drawing from his personal marriage journey and 20+ years of professional experience, Geoff shares the turning point that transformed his own relationship and the essential roadmap he uses with couples navigating the aftermath of betrayal. 

You’ll hear how full disclosure is not just a confessional but a structured, trauma-informed process that sets the stage for healing. You’ll also learn why most traditional couples counseling fails betrayed couples, what real accountability looks like, and how the betrayer can become a source of strength instead of pain. 

This episode is a must-listen for anyone considering rebuilding after betrayal—or helping others do the same. 

🔑 Topics We Cover: 

• Geoff’s personal betrayal recovery journey—and how it shaped his work 

• The critical “wake-up call” moment that changed everything in his marriage 

• Why many therapists unintentionally retraumatize betrayed partners 

• The anatomy of a successful full disclosure process 

• What betrayed partners really need to heal 

• How betrayers can move from shame into strength and empathy 

• Why traditional “relationship advice” (like more date nights) is premature 

• The emotional cost of “trickle truth” and how to stop it 

• What real intimacy looks like after betrayal 

• Why healing timelines vary—and what a realistic journey looks like 

• The role of courage in rebuilding a relationship from the ground up 

💬 Memorable Quotes: 

“The most compassionate thing a betrayer can do is restore choice to the betrayed partner by telling the full truth.” 

“You can’t rebuild on sand. If you’re rebuilding, build it on something rock-solid—even if that means facing hard truths first.” 

“When couples do this work courageously, they often end up with a relationship they never imagined possible.” 

“Healing after betrayal isn’t about going back. It’s about co-creating something completely new—with mutual accountability, safety, and truth.” 

🛠️ Resources Mentioned: 

• From Crisis to Connection Podcast — Geoff’s show and site with his wife, Jody, offering a roadmap for couples healing from betrayal 

• PBT Rebuild Program — For those who’ve betrayed and want to do the deep work of repair and transformation 

• PBT Reclaim Program – For the betrayed who is ready to heal physically, mentally and emotionally 

💡 Takeaway: 

Rebuilding after betrayal is hard—but not impossible. With honesty, accountability, empathy, and the right roadmap, couples can move beyond survival and into transformation. It starts with courageous truth-telling and continues with consistent, individual growth that supports the relationship over time. 

🎧 Listen + Subscribe: 

Don’t miss this episode of From Betrayal to Breakthrough wherever you get your podcasts. 

In this powerful, eye-opening masterclass, Dr. Debi Silber explores the hidden ways unhealed betrayal trauma disrupts workplace performance, leadership, team dynamics, and personal well-being. From brain fog and burnout to disengagement and chronic stress, betrayal at work and in life silently chips away at trust, productivity, and engagement—until it's named and healed. You’ll also hear from several Certified PBT® Coaches and Practitioners sharing real-world examples, healing insights, and how the PBT Method transforms both individuals and organizations. 

What You’ll Learn: 

• Why betrayal is a unique form of trauma that requires a specific kind of healing 

• The 3 groundbreaking discoveries from Dr. Debi's PhD study on betrayal 

• How betrayal shows up at work (emotional volatility, imposter syndrome, absenteeism, inability to trust or delegate) 

• Post Betrayal Syndrome®: Symptoms and statistics from 100,000+ survey respondents 

• How unhealed betrayal is misdiagnosed as stress, burnout, leadership breakdown, or low morale 

• The 5 Stages from Betrayal to Breakthrough—and how to move through them 

• Why time and even new relationships don’t heal betrayal—only deliberate action does 

Featuring Guest Experts & PBT Coaches: 

• Coach Peggy: On how betrayal left her emotionally overwhelmed and unable to work—leading to months of missed work and HR intervention 

• Coach Elizabeth: On the nervous system’s response to trauma, chronic pain, addiction, and how yoga and somatic work support healing 

• Coach Nari: On self-awareness, trauma’s impact on leadership and decision-making, and how healing restores personal power 

• Practitioner Jay: On the workplace costs of unhealed betrayal, from policy gaps to team dysfunction, shame, and numbing behaviors 

• Coach Sunrise (Middle East): On cultural barriers to addressing betrayal, the fast-track to "getting over it," and the cost of skipping healing 

• Coach Ingrid (Kenya): On how betrayal trauma is perceived in Kenya, small business impacts, and cultural silence around betrayal 

• Coach Tran (Vietnam): On the hidden emotional toll betrayal takes in professional settings where it’s often ignored 

Key Stats Shared: 

• 84% struggle with trust after betrayal 

• 71% experience sleep issues 

• 60% can’t concentrate 

• 78% constantly revisit the betrayal 

• 81% feel a loss of personal power 

• 45% have digestive issues related to betrayal 

Programs Mentioned: 

• Reclaim Essentials: Self-paced program with milestone tracking — $497 

• Reclaim Momentum: Includes group coaching, live classes, Q&A with Dr. Debi — $997 

• Transform: All of Momentum + 3 private sessions with Dr. Debi + small group Transform sessions — $5,000 

Resources: 

• Take the Post Betrayal Syndrome® Quiz: https://thepbtinstitute.com/quiz  

• Join the Reclaim Program: https://thepbtinstitute.com/reclaim  

• Learn about bringing PBT® to your workplace: https://thepbtinstitute.com/corporate/  

Final Takeaway: You don’t leave your wounds at the door. Betrayal trauma—personal or professional—will show up in your leadership, performance, team relationships, and health unless you deliberately heal it. The good news? With the right roadmap, healing is not just possible—it’s predictable. 

Have you ever found yourself in the same toxic patterns—different people, but the same pain? In this powerful and deeply personal episode, Dr. Debi sits down with Keyleigh Clarkson, a therapist who brings both professional training and lived experience to the conversation around toxic relationships, trauma, and healing. 

From growing up in an unstable household to dating emotionally unavailable partners, Keyleigh shares how she broke the cycle of pain and reclaimed her self-worth. Together, Debi and Keyleigh explore the psychological roots of toxic relationship patterns, the impact of trauma on the nervous system, and—most importantly—how we can begin to heal. 

🔑 Key Topics Covered: 

• Keyleigh’s personal story of repeating toxic patterns from childhood to adulthood 

• What is Repetitive Compulsion? Understanding why we’re drawn to what hurts us 

• How trauma impacts the nervous system—and what that means for healing 

• Self-worth vs. self-love: Why “self-like” may be the missing step 

• The danger of outsourcing your worth—and how to bring it back home 

• Small daily promises as a powerful tool to rebuild self-trust 

• Recognizing when you’re stuck: repeating patterns in love, friendship, and work 

• Practical nervous system regulation tools (like the Butterfly Hug and 4-Square Breathing) 

• Signs you’re healing: subtle shifts that signal growth and transformation 

• Why the relationship you have with yourself sets the tone for every other one 

💬 Memorable Quotes: 

“We often date the same person in a different body. That’s a sign we’re stuck in a familiar pain.” – Keyleigh Clarkson 

“Healing doesn’t start with affirmations—it starts with safety in the body.” – Keyleigh Clarkson 

“There is nothing wrong with you. People’s behavior says more about them than it ever did about you.” – Keyleigh Clarkson 

“If we’re outsourcing our self-worth, it can be taken as quickly as it’s given.” – Keyleigh Clarkson 

“Self-like comes before self-love.” – Keyleigh Clarkson 

🛠️ Practical Tools Mentioned: 

• Butterfly Hug (crossed thumbs, alternating taps on chest or knees) 

• 4-Square Breathing (inhale, hold, exhale, hold for 4 seconds each) 

• Daily self-promises (e.g., reading two pages, taking a walk, journaling) 

• Self-awareness exercises: Track recurring patterns in relationships 

• Micro meditations: Just 1 minute of stillness to begin retraining your nervous system 

💡 Final Takeaway: 

You are not broken. If you’ve found yourself in toxic relationships, it doesn’t mean you’re unworthy—it means you’re operating from learned survival patterns. Healing is possible, and it starts with reclaiming your self-trust, regulating your nervous system, and building a gentle, compassionate relationship with yourself—one promise at a time. 

Connect with Keyleigh Clarkson: 

• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamkeyleighclarkson/  

Connect with The PBT Institute:   The Reclaim Program – For the betrayed – Learn more here: https://thepbtinstitute.com/reclaim/   

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If you found this episode helpful, please subscribe, leave a review, and share it with someone who needs to hear this. Healing from betrayal starts with understanding—and this episode is packed with insight that can make a real difference. 

In this powerful and heart-expanding conversation, I’m joined by my new friend, Debbie Lynn Grace—intuitive mentor, energy expert, and founder of Sensitive Living Magazine. We dive deep into what it truly means to be a Highly Sensitive Person (HSP), how to embrace this trait as a superpower, and how to access higher vibrational states to move through life with greater clarity, peace, and purpose. 

Whether you’ve been told you're “too sensitive,” feel easily drained by your environment, or just sense that you're wired differently, this episode will help you see those traits not as liabilities—but as divine gifts. 

We also explore how trauma, especially betrayal, impacts highly sensitive people more intensely, and what it looks like to rise from that pain into the most empowered version of yourself. 

🧠 What You’ll Learn: 

• The science and energetics behind Highly Sensitive People (HSPs) 

• Why sensitivity is not a weakness—but a gift for healing and intuitive insight 

• The difference between ego path vs. soul path (and why most of us are stuck in ego mode) 

• How to recognize your vibrational range—and live above your upper limit 

• Four ways your higher guidance communicates with you (and how to stop ignoring it) 

• How to shift from stuck, fear-based patterns into aligned, soul-level action 

• What high-vibration living really means—and why it's the key to healing after betrayal 

💡 Key Quotes: 

“If you took away my sensitivity, you'd have to take away my work.” – Debbie Lynn Grace “Highly sensitive people don’t just hear what’s said… they hear what’s not being said.” – Dr. Debi Silber “Living at a high vibration isn’t a someday idea. It’s available to you now. You just have to choose it.” 

🔗 Resources & Links: 

• 🌐 Learn more about Debbie Lynn Grace: https://debbielynngrace.com  

• 📖 Subscribe to Sensitive Living Magazine: https://www.sensitivelivingmagazine.com 

• 🎓 Explore healing after betrayal: https://thepbtinstitute.com 

🧭 Final Takeaway: 

Being highly sensitive isn’t something to overcome—it’s something to honor. In a world that often demands resilience over receptivity, sensitivity is your soul’s way of guiding you toward deeper healing, connection, and truth. When you stop operating from fear and ego, and start listening to your higher self—you step into the frequency of who you were always meant to be. 

In this powerful episode, I sit down with Samantha Boss—divorce coach, parenting advocate, and truth-teller behind “The Ugly Truth of Divorce.” Samantha shares her raw, unfiltered journey through a high-conflict divorce, co-parenting with a diagnosed narcissist, and the long road to healing—not just for herself, but for her children. 

We talk about the parts of divorce no one prepares you for: the manipulation, the guilt, the courtroom chaos, and the silent trauma children absorb when parents are too overwhelmed to see the signs. 

This episode isn’t just for those navigating divorce. It’s a masterclass in emotional regulation, boundary-setting, and reclaiming your parenting power in the face of chaos. If you're struggling to co-parent with someone toxic—or you feel like you’ve lost yourself trying to keep the peace—this conversation will bring clarity, courage, and hope. 

🔑 What We Cover: 

• Samantha’s whirlwind 60-day engagement and the red flags she missed 

• The reality of divorcing a narcissist and enduring 300+ court appearances 

• The impact of parental alienation—and how she didn’t see it coming 

• Why emotional dysregulation sabotaged her parenting (and how she changed it) 

• The role of play therapy in uncovering her children’s silent suffering 

• How trying to “look like the good parent” backfired 

• The turning point when a child psychologist gave her the wake-up call she needed 

• Why trying to force co-parenting isn’t always the right answer 

• How giving her children choices created emotional safety and empowerment 

• What her children taught her about healing, boundaries, and finding their voice 

• Why neutrality—not bashing the ex—is critical for your child’s long-term wellbeing 

• Creating new traditions post-divorce and redefining “family” on your own terms 

• Long-term parenting: how to think beyond court dates and into your child’s future 

🛠️ Practical Tools and Takeaways: 

• Stay neutral or say nothing when it comes to your co-parent. Let your kids form their own opinions. 

• Emotional regulation is your superpower—your children mirror what you model. 

• Prioritize your healing before trying to fix your kids. Your transformation leads theirs. 

• Empower kids with choices—big or small. It restores their sense of control. 

• Focus on creating a home that feels safe, consistent, and peaceful. 

• Don't force co-parenting with someone incapable of respectful collaboration. Parallel parenting may be safer. 

• Think long-term. Your relationship with your child goes far beyond age 18. 

💬 Memorable Quotes: 

“I was promoting someone who was tearing me down behind closed doors. And the kids felt the disconnect.” 

“I didn’t realize I was teaching my children to people-please a bully.” 

“Once I emotionally regulated, everything changed. My kids followed my lead—because I was finally leading.” 

👥 About Our Guest: Samantha Boss 

Samantha Boss is the founder of The Ugly Truth of Divorce, where she supports parents navigating high-conflict co-parenting, parental alienation, and post-divorce recovery. After surviving a decade of court battles and emotional warfare, she now helps others reclaim peace and power in their parenting. 

Learn more about Samantha at https://samanthaboss.com 

Resources:  The 5 Stages from Betrayal to Breakthrough: https://thepbtinstitute.com/reclaim 

The Rebuild Program (For those who betrayed and want to heal): https://thepbtinstitute.com/rebuild/  

The PBT Institute Community (Join the healing conversation): https://thepbtinstitute.com