Laura Brand, illustrator and author of the Joy Journal joins Caggie this week. Laura’s first book - a homemade crafts guide for children - came out over lockdown, and her second book around crafts for adults has just been released, ‘The Joy Journal for Grown Ups’. Caggie and Laura talk about the importance of play and crafts as a tool for mindfulness. They also discuss Laura's initiation into motherhood, shapeshifting through their twenties, and how our Saturn Return creates an opportunity for us to reclaim our true authentic self.  

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