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#586: The Random Show with Kevin Rose — Current Books, Men's Groups, Tuna Helper, the Latest in NFTs, Fierce Intimacy, and More


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Technologist, serial entrepreneur, world-class investor, self-experimenter, and all-around wild and crazy guy Kevin Rose (@KevinRose) rejoins me for another episode of The Random Show.

In this one we discuss the books that we are currently reading, outdated behaviors, healing with men’s groups, masculinity, Kevin’s new Moonbirds project (a collection of 10,000 utility-enabled PFPs), my first NFT, and much, much more.

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What are Kevin and I stupidly frugal about? [06:15]

Tobacco talk, Zoom group therapy, and books we’ve been reading. [10:20]

Thoughts on men’s groups, healthy venting, the demonization of masculinity, and groupthink. [37:11]

How my first NFT came to be, and the story behind PROOF Collective’s Grails project. [45:45]

What’s a utility NFT, and will my NFT have utility attached to it? While a great idea in theory, what problems might arise over the lifetime of a utility NFT? How is the PROOF Collective trying to alleviate such problems? [52:30]

Can FUD (fear, uncertainty, and doubt) be a good thing in the NFT world? [59:29]

The difficulties presented by trying to serve a massive audience on a reasonable budget, and how PROOF Collective’s new PFP project, Moonbirds, will try to do it right. [1:03:15]

Could an NFT project get me canceled? Perhaps someday we’ll see. [1:06:15]

Is Harlan Estate the Moonbirds of wine, or is Moonbirds the Harlan Estate of NFTs? Kevin explains why he’s particularly excited about the possibilities of Web3 — and why Adam Gazzaley owes him a bottle of Hibiki 30. [1:08:43]

“Apeing” into position while mitigating downside when opportunity seems to be knocking. [1:12:52]

Why Kevin believes now is the time to get a foundational understanding of how blockchains and NFTs work even if you don’t have big money to spend in the game. [1:16:57]

Don’t want to mingle with people at a conference? Tell them this. [1:17:37]

Parting thoughts. [1:20:05]

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