Ohhhh how much more simple life would be if all we had to do was look out for ourselves.... But in a society that encourages insularity, and where its negative consequences can be clearly seen, how do we balance responsibility for ourselves, as well as responsibility for others?

In this episode of Sunday Sanctuary, Petra talks to returning fan favourite Frank Ritchie and the head of the school of psychology at Auckland University, Niki Harré. Niki's new book 'The Calling; A Year Exploring What the Secular World can Learn from Religion" is out on March 12th.

Sacred Text:

He Tatau Pounamu by Alistair Reese

Sam drew on reporting and interviews from Jad Abumrad's podcast Fela Kuti: Fear No Man. Listen to it on Spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts

Music:

Instrumental by The Fuzzy Robes

Zombie by Fela Kuti

Lagos (Never Gonna Be The Same) by Hugh Masakela and Tony Allen

Slider - Lorenzo Saxophone Dub by This Is The Kit

Nest Egg by Phoenix Foundation

Tesifa by Laney Tripp